Vodo-Siosk Bass was able to trouble Kun in a melee duel. Thon has shown incredible power in the force. Odun-Urr was able to force push Kun when he stole his holocron and was unlucky to get blasted by his amulet. Arca Jeth was likely to be much more powerful than he was portrayed in the comics. His battle meditation was incredible and it is likely that the dark side of Onderon greatly weakened him and that was how he died so easily. I still think Kun wins but I don't think that it would be as easy. They could possible combine powers that would repel his sith magics, but that is heavily relying on Kun to not act quickly and also it is debatable whether they would be efficient enough to work as a group in that way.
He still would have had a lot more knowledge to learn from, unlike Ulic Kun spend a lot of time studying the remnants of Sadow his knowledge and the bits and pieces that Nadd gave him, which didn't seem to be much but he learned enough from it. He knew more then Ulic did, he has shown far greater force mastery then Ulic has by freezing the senate room, which would have held a few dozen of thousands of people he killed Odan Urr with a wave of his hand, Odan would very likely be the grand master of the Jedi Order, he was old enough for it and wise enough, there wouldn't be anybody alive in tha time with more knowledge then him. Kun by far exceeded Ulic with or without his shiny little amulet.
I wasn't changing the parameters to make Kun less incredible in this thread. I was only making a point on his potential. Even before he turned to the darkside, though he may have been the most powerful out of all of the knights, he actually seemed older than the others. Ulic probably had at least as much potential as him.
More speculation, "he seemed older" if you are not completely ignorant, people dont have to look like their age, some look older, some younger, where is your proof that Ulic has more potential or equal to Kun?
Vodo had been training Jedi for 600 years, and yet he proclaims Kun his most formidable student he has ever had, that means something, there is also the fact that the Dark Lord of the Sith is more powerful than his apprentice, hence Ragnos chose Kun, knowing he had more potential and was more powerful than Ulic.
Same thing can be said, DN Luke, has not got that much potential, the only reasoning is that he was a skywalker, doubtless fanboys will attack me, but outside of Anakin, Luke has not got much potential according to your standards.
Well he looked quite a bit older and acted older too. Ulic was still able to stalemate Exar when he himself had hardly any knowledge of sith magic and Kun had loads and had improved through it incredibly. Ragnos chose Kun because he was more powerful at the time, not because he had more potential.
And can you explain your seconf point again? Why would Luke have not so much potential according to my logic?
Kun was a prodigy, and by you saying he acted older, looked older does not mean he is older, he matured faster, and as usual being a Sith distorts your image
Ok, Luke is only praised as a force god due to the fact he reached his potential at 50, with no opposition, yes he was powerful, but does that mean he has more potential? No, well atleast by what you're saying thats what you imply
Therefore by saying that, you can imply any powerful figure had less or more potential, but how does that make it fact?
Ulic statemated Exar Kun, in a LIGHTSABER fight only, adding to the fact, Kun had not developed his unique saber nor saber style yet, they never contested force powers...therefore you cannot say Ulic is equal to Kun in potential as a LIGHTSABER fights soley can not determine force potency.
Ragnos specifically stated that Kun will bring about the Golden Age of the Sith, but that wouldn't happen if someone, could contest or overpower Kun himself, and its likely, that if Ulic's potential equalled or surpassed that of Kun's, then they'll likely be locked in battle for the title of Dark Lord of the Sith, and its also known that betrayal amongst Sith ranks is what leads to undoing, therefore if that happened how can Kun bring about the Golden Age of the Sith? Reason: He surpassed Ulic by far in both power and potential
Look clearly you are like in love with Exar Kun but don't take it personally when I say something about him which you disagree with. I think it is clear that sith magic was very easy to learn (look at how incredible Aleema's illusions were and think of how little time she had to learn them) and Exar Kun only showed feats that made him comparable to somebody like Sadow after he learned lots of sith magic on Yavin 4. For instance his most impressive power was using Sadow's amulet and it was basically given to him. Think of how incredible someone like Revan would have become if he had had access to the same sith magics. His sith magic mad him what he is and not his potential.
Aleema's illusions were a direct result of Naga Sadow's ship. Just like her ability to rip the core from the stars. Naga Sadow was arguably the greatest Sith Magician and Alchemist to ever live (I suppose Ragnos and Simus have a claim on that), so arguing that point is pretty much moot.
According to you, his facial features looked older.
Never mind that it was never mentioned in the comics, never alluded to in any source, and never mentioned in any chronology or source. But yes, he was older because Numan think she looked older than Ulic.
Feb 27th, 2006 07:11 PM
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