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In terms of the force, Kun has never seen an enemy like this so for all we know he knows no force powers that can take the Vong down. I suppose he can curbstomp them with his saber since there are only 8 and 1 overlord.
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He can still attack them indirectly. I see no problem with him ripping the ground from beneath their feet and pummeling them with it, or obliterating them with his amulet...
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Ok IKC then what makes his blast different than an AT-AT blast? They do the same thing, except if Kun's blast was indeed a force blast it certainly would not affect a being outside of the force.
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Ok so with your point....I just want to bring it into this thread since its an ongoing discussion. It blew up stone, AT-AT fire could blow up stone, DE Luke stopped an AT-AT blast, and it's NOT logical to say he could stop Kun's blast, especially based on your logic?
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No I'm not saying because A and B do the same thing and he stopped A, he is going to stop B. I'm saying it gives us something to work with considering they do the exact same thing, the blast was never shown to kill a living competent force user, and unless there's something different or special about the blast that Luke can't fathom, then it's logical to say that maybe he can stop it. I just don't see how you can't use that logic, but then say "because emerald lightning was never shown to work on a force user, there's no evidence to suggest that Luke can use it on Kun". It's as if(and this is the way I see it) you have two different opinions going for the same argument.
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If the beams are physical manifestations of the Force, they'll be just as ineffective against the Vong as lightning. When Jacen launched a blast of lightning against Vergere, Nom Anor, and a squad of warriors, only Vergere was directly affected. Although pieces of the ceiling and walls crumbled under its intensity, the lightning just veered away from the Vong. So I don't see how the amulet's beam would harm them. Kun would still be able to blast apart the ground or environment in an ordinary environment, however, meaning that the weapon can still be used to his advantage.
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That's the argument I'm trying to make here. You can't say the blast is both a physical manifestation AND will knock down the Vong as it is a contradiction, and it just sounds biased.
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And what is the Green Lightning if not a phyiscal manifestation of the force? The Amulet Blasts are instakills just as the Green Lightning is.
Consider also that the Vong are affected by physical attacks, though they are resistant to some attacks, there is no proof that they invulnerable to techniques they have never been developed against, to my knowledge the Ancient Sith amulets died with Kun's demise, and although the Vong are outside of the force, they are only shown to be resistant to common offensive force powers, example being the Emerald Lightning, when it was used, the Vong could not defend against it, hence its logic to assume that another unique and rare technique will be just as effective.
tdtd, the Green lightning Luke produces is a phyiscal manifestation of the Force. It knocked down the Vong, and here your saying another perhaps more destructive instakill, shown to work on huge monsters are not going to work? Sorry that sounds just as biased.
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You're really missing the point Deception. Luke's attack which WAS an instakill was possibly designed to combat the force or just created by Luke for kicks. The instakill itself produces so much energy that it could go around that "hole in the force" which surrounds the Vong. At the same time Kun's blasts were NOT an instakill, nor were ever shown to be used on a live, competent force user. And if youre going to use the argument that it could blast through monsters and walls, I'm going to say, so does an AT-AT blast and Luke blocked it.
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