I am tempted to say Traya since she slapped around three Jedi masters, each of which were stronger than any member on the (AOTC) PT Jedi council (with the exception of Yoda and Mace).
Factor in her instantkill, and the fact that none of the members on the PT council are strong enough to resist a technique "born of the ancient sith", in which "there is no defence," the battle seems guaranteed in Traya's favour.
Traya's technique seems very much a variation of Nihilus' technique. I don't think any one in the PT council is strong enough to resist it. Not to mention they woudn't be able to get of the floor to try a counter attack. Plo Koon, Cin Drallig, and Kit Fisto would be thrown out the windows in the council room. Yoda and Mace would be shot down.
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what makes you the assume that she's going to be able to use that on powerful jedi such as Yoda and Mace? And her technique wasn't a variation of Nihilus' at all. They are two different techniques. Hers is an instakill while Nihilus just eats the force. I don't think Traya can just whip it out anytime she wants either.
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When she has regained her power in the darkside, she uses the technique casually.
The technique is described to literally suck the force out of its victim. Having seen it work against three renowned masters in the Jedi Order without even so much of an ounce of resistance, I have little doubt that Yoda and Mace would be shrivelled into prunes.
I agree with zephiel7 here, there is no proof that the Jedi Masters that Kreia killed were weaker than the PT Jedi Masters, although the PT Jedi like Mace and Yoda may possess superior saber skills, their force potential and ability don't have that much of a difference.
Yoda and Mace have shown no defense against, any more reformed and strong techniques of the Dark Side, its likely they don't even have knowledge of such techniques, Mace was demolished by Sith lightning and Yoda could barely resist Sidious's lightning, and we are talking your average Sith lightning, not any special technique
AotC Council? Mace and Yoda might be able to pull this off, just shove the green and purple sabers ASAP in her face and she might not be able to get an instakill off...
But for her to win, I guess she HAS to start instakilling like crazy right when she walks in the room. I don't see her coming out alive if she attempts to engage any of the better ones in saber combat.
Keep in mind, it only takes 1 light sabre to kill you. Wiether its stabbed directly at you, or thrown at you from 30 yards away, your dead. Can Traya instakill all of the members before 1 of them manages to hurl their light sabre at her?
Personally, I see her losing this. She's not going to take down Yoda with any manner of ease and adding people like Windu into the fray is going to be very, very hard for her.
Yes, she doesn't have the force mastery to compete with all of them. Individually, I'd say she outclasses them, but together? This is just overkill, you've got Yoda, a guy who would prove to be a serious challenge on his own to her, and Windu, who is likewise. She'll die.
I agree, but you all also have to realize that its like comparing apples to oranges. The counsil members and traya, were written by different authors and in some cases, without the knowledge of the others. Like she was powerful in her era, but noone from her era has been compared to PT-OT character before In any kind of reference (that Im aware of at least). We dont know where GL would put them against "ancient" sith, and the EU authors kinda have free range on what thir characters can do.
But in the end, I say she gets overwhelmed rather quickly. Y
Traya walked into the room in KOTOR 2 and absolutely demolished Vrook, Zez Kai, and Kavar. She threw them on their asses with not even the slightest hint of effort, and afterwards sucked them of the force with almost comical ease. All of them had their lightsabers drawn, but they could not pull anything on her.
All three of these guys were reknowned masters by the way. Probably Vrook and Kavar were included in the top few of the KOTOR era, Zez kai not so much.
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If she instakills three random ones, she might be doing them a favor by taking out Trebor and the like. And we don't know if she can "autofire" this instakill, or if there's a "cooldown" effect. We've seen her utilize it on three Masters... can she do it on more? If so, why didn't she just go around instakilling everyone against her?
She might be able to get a few out of the way, but once one or two of 'em get close I doubt she'll walk out alive.
But I see her winning if she manages to take both Yoda and/or Mace first. The other big guns like Anakin or Obi-Wan haven't emerged yet, and the others will likely fall to her pure force powers (She's like a more powerful rots Sidious)
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