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OT Emperor & OT Vader vs Old Ben Kenobi & OT Yoda.
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Generic Hero
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OT Emperor & OT Vader vs Old Ben Kenobi & OT Yoda.

Assuming both Yoda and the Emperor have lightsabers.

Who would win? Jedi or Sith?

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Well, the ANH novel said that Vader and Kenobi were virtually stalemating each other. Neither could overcome the other.


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But the Emperor was pretty much tied with Yoda in ROTS (although Yoda was his slight superior).

The Emperor spent a good 20 years studying the Dark Side and the holocrons from the Jedi temple. While all Yoda did was meditate in a hut.

I'm not sure if OT Yoda can handle the OT Emperor.

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He'd probably die. And he has no lightsaber.

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Yes, I'm more inclined to say that Kenobi and Vader will stalemate each other, whilst Sidious outfights Yoda in a long, grueling duel.


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The Sith.


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Well, for this match they're given sabres.

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Thing is, at this point the force has gone fully in the favor of the dark side. Obi-Wan and Yoda have been hiding in BFE doing nothing really, and they're sorely out of saber practice. And both of them were only barely a match for their Sith counterparts twenty years prior.

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The Sith, I'd say. Vader's spent 20 years pwning Jedi stragglers, Palpatine's spent 20 years learning neat Dark Side powers and being badass on his throne of doom...

Yoda and Kenobi have spent 20 years learning how to become ghosts...


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The Sith, I'd say. Vader's spent 20 years pwning Jedi stragglers, Palpatine's spent 20 years learning neat Dark Side powers and being badass on his throne of doom...

Yoda and Kenobi have spent 20 years learning how to become ghosts...


I can see it now, the heat of Tattoine has gotten to Obi Wan and he is just wearing a sheet and yelling around jawa neighborhoods screaming "Boo!" Kenobi would make a good character on "Cops," well, up until he tried to ride away on a bantha naked.

I'm so sorry.


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I'd have to say the sith too. Although I do think the Jedi have more power and force knowledge, Vader has been in combat the past 20 years, while Sidious studied God knows how much dark side knowledge. In the end they would take it more often than not.


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Yoda is probably too old and weak to take the OT Emperor. ROTS Yoda might take him, but not OT.


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The Sith win. GL says by ANH Obi-Wan is stronger than Yoda, so Sidious might be able to take these two alone. But with Vader there, Sidious pwns Yoda while Vader holds back Kenobi, then Sidious and Vader together pwn Kenobi.


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The Sith win. GL says by ANH Obi-Wan is stronger than Yoda, so Sidious might be able to take these two alone. But with Vader there, Sidious pwns Yoda while Vader holds back Kenobi, then Sidious and Vader together pwn Kenobi.

Whoa what!?

ANH Obi-Wan is stronger than Yoda?


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No darthsith... GL said "Obi-Wan, who at this point is the strongest good guy[...]". He could be referring to the fact that Yoda had not been introduced yet.

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No, Yoda had been introduced. He said that on the DVD, which came out in 2005. He didn't say Obi-Wan was the strongest good guy in the film, he said the strongest good guy at that time. Unless I'm mistaken Yoda was still alive and a good guy at that time.


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Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
No darthsith... GL said "Obi-Wan, who at this point is the strongest good guy[...]". He could be referring to the fact that Yoda had not been introduced yet.



Yoda was not introduced til ESB


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Indeed.

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The Sith. While Sidious uses his Lightning to blow Yoda's decent Push away, Vader and Kenobi slowly slash eachother, then Sidious blasts Kenobi.

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Yoda was not introduced til ESB

Yoda was alive at the time of ANH. "Obi-Wan, who at this point is the strongest good guy" Lets break that down. "Obi-Wan ... is the strongest good guy" meaning he was the strongest. If he's the strongest good guy then he's stronger than any of the other good guys. "At this point." At this point, the point of ANH, he's the strongest good guy. In other words, the quote says "At the point of ANH where Obi-Wan fights Vader he is the strongest good guy." Strongest good guy = he's stronger than any other good guy, not 2nd strongest or third strongest, strongest. Yoda was alive at this time but Obi-Wan was still given the term "strongest". Not Yoda. ANH Audio Commentary, Chapter 37-38, if you don't believe me.


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