I'd say Plo, imo Qui-Gon and ROTJ Luke are on par and Plo is supposed to be slightly above Qui-Gon, plus he knows electric judgement and has the ability to freeze creaks and stuff, and he's a respected Jedi Master and Shien/Djem So master and is held in high regards by Maul, which is saying something since Maul hates Jedi.
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and luke with less than a year's worth of training was able to defeat Vader, what's your point? luke also mastered djem so at an early age, and i believe he and anakin were the best djem so users in the galaxy. i'd give this to luke though
Vader would have beaten Luke if he hadn't been holding back. Proof that Luke mastered Djem So by ROTJ? And your right that Luke and Anakin were the best Djem So users but Luke by ROTJ wasn't, Plo was greater than he was. He was stronger than Qui-Gon during the Stark Hyperspace Wars, which takes place 12 years before TPM, likely around the time when Qui-Gon was in his prime, and as I already stated I believe TPM Qui-Gon to be equal with ROTJ Luke. So Plo > Qui-Gon in his prime > TPM Qui-Gon = Luke (the last bit is debatable, some might think ROTJ Luke to eb above TPM Qui-Gon).
Luke beat Vader with Anakin's help....yea figure that one out, lol.
Anyways, Plo was one of the top Masters of the Order, and hass no emotional connection to Luke where by to let him win, and he was a much physically stronger being as was the nature of his species. Koon hands down. If not even saber skills then mos def in force mastery.
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ROTJ Luke is better (but only by a close margin) than Qui-Gon. People even say Luke is on par with Maul. I would say
Maul > (close) ROTJ Luke > Qui-Gon
Now, I don't think Plo Koon is better than Maul since Maul's so underrated and Plo's so overatted. It's just like ESB Luke vs. Qui-Gon, Plo Koon wins by experience and being more connected with the Force.
How is Maul underrated and Plo overrated??? Maul killed one of the top Jedi Masters while tooling his padawan. We saw what he can do. Maul would pwn Luke (ROTJ), much like QGJ would. I don't think there is one Jedi Master that Luke can beat in ROTJ, except maybe that fat blue toolbox that Jango shot. And really thats just because i don't like him, lol, ill admit it. Plo, who actually is one of the better Jedi Masters, would take luke n a matter of minutes.
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Didn't I successfully give LOGICAL evidence that ESB Luke is pretty close to QGJ. I did, didn't I? ROTJ Luke would definately be better than Jinn (that's not saying he's much better and all, just a bit better) but not enough to take on Maul. I would say Plo wins but ROTJ Luke would give a good fight.
well first of all plo koon is my favorite star wars character and in no way is he overrated.
in fact hes very much underrated.
but ROTJ Luke is a pretty bad with the lightsaber he uses no technique unless you call swingin you lightsaber around like a maniac a technique.
also luke barely has any force control.
plo koon is better in saber skills and force mastery.
im sorry to say but plo koon craps all over luke when it comes to being a jedi
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Did I say he was better? No, I said he'll lose but he might give an okay fight. Luke isn't overrated. He just has incredible strength, courage, and potential.
And sorry I was too hasty in sayng Plo Koon was overrated. However, certain people (Koon fanboys) claim that Plo is one of the best swordsmen ever and that he can contend with Anakin, etc. However, Koon fanboyism has decreased.
trust, im no Koon fanboy. He's good, but hell, OB1 got capturd in AOTC. Luke has crazy potential, but is nowhere near as refined by ROTJ as he needs to be to beat Plo. I'll say it'll be a good fight.
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Are you that daft? Do you not understand that Luke trained for less than a year with NO real lightsaber form? And it was obviously good enough to defeat Vader.
go watch the movie again.
vader was obviously holding back and luke knew that.
luke owes his life to vader because if vader wasnt sympathetic to luke sidious wouldve killed him.
Plo Koon vs. Rotj Luke
Oct 11th, 2006 09:14 PM
