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Not big.
Revan wins this without difficulty. But hang on, if we're talking about Revans entire empire vs Caedus's battered and bruised fleet then this hardly seems fair.
Also factor in Revans brilliant mind against Jacens cracked one and you might just have a curpstomp. Out of interest, do they get to use Force powers?
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If I remember correctly, Colonel Solo was in command of over half of the assembled Galactic Alliance fleet at the second Battle of Fondor, and his numbers were further assisted when the Moff Council pledged the support of the Imperial fleet to Solo upon the assassination of Grand Admiral Pellaeon. What one must remember is that it is highly unlikely (one might even go so far as to say impossible) that the fleets present at Fondor in their entirety. The Galactic Alliance, Imperial Remnant, Confederation, and government-in-exile as led by Admiral Cha Niathal likely possess far more vessels and fleets that are positioned throughout the galaxy.
All powerful? Well, no entity is, but compared to Revan's empire? It might as well be.
Revan's unlimited ships don't appear in fleetsize out of thin air. It takes time and resources to construct. Meanwhile, Jacen Solo is in possession of superior Force strength, vastly superior fleet strength, and potent battle meditation.
I also question if it is possible for Revan to have an unlimited fleet. While he may have the an unlimited supply of ships, I don't recall it ever saying that those ships can be used by droids if he didn't the necessary amount of men to operate them.
That would be the darkside non-canon ending of the game and even then it is obvious that it takes time to build. The star forge just doesn't shoot an a entire fleet out its @$$. Each individual ship has to take time to build.
I see the star forge producing ships similar to the clones being produced on Kamino. There are most likely different ships at different stages of development
Also as I said before there is no indication that droids can pilot those ships without any sentient beings aboard them. While he may have a source of unlimited ships they are useless if he doesn't have the necessary manpower to operate them.
You know Revan is a him as you have been told numerous times now, so cut the "her" crap.
Last edited by Elite Hunter on Apr 18th, 2008 at 07:53 PM
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Location: University of Texas-Austin(Aka libe
Caedus has superior strength in the force? That remains to be seen Escape. Furthermore, what's to say Revan didn't have this battle awareness that Caedus has? It is unlikely that he could have been such a brilliant tactician without some battle awareness abilities. Also, you can hang on the fact that the firepower goes to the GA, but then you'd have to quantify how many of Revan's "unlimited" ships are equal to how many of Caedus' army.
When one puts the chronology into context, there is very little doubt that Colonel Solo is superior to Darth Revan. Solo was second only to Luke Skywalker in the Order, putting him well ahead of the likes of Kyp Durron and Kyle Katarn.
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Force potential? Yes. Force mastery? Very unlikely.
Besides me saying I think I read it somewhere, the likes of Palpatine and Naga Sadow had it, as sith masters with a certain amount of force mastery. Revan's ability to push the Mandalorians back has as much to do with his superior skills, as his battle awareness.
Registered: Dec 2007
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LOL. It's funny how you guys spaz out over that. You may as well give up, I'm never gonna change just coz you told me to. And, yes, Revan is cannonally male, I just DON'T CARE.
We're talking about Empires here, not individuals.
Theres every indication. In the movies, the CSI capital ships were crewed by... Droid's. Ships can be crewed by droids easily and efficiently. And the Star forge can also create supplies of droids.
Also, if we're talking about Revan's entire empire then Revan has Billions of conscripts ready. Her Empire was star-spanning with trillions of people under her control.
The Handmaiden talked at length about Revan's enhanced battle awareness, and it all sounded surspiciously like Caedus's wierd ability. I think that she actually talk's about Revan being able to predict enemy movements and tactics.
That's why I asked which Revan this was.
Revan took a battered and broken army and went on to beat the greatest force in the galaxy. According to Rand, Billions were dying so you can be sure that they were tight on numbers also. Despite all of this, Revan creamed them totally and then came back for seconds with the Republic.
And there were Numodians(sp) on the ships as well and they were the ones in charge of the ships not droids. Furthermore when you play on the Leviathan you see no droids in any position of influence anywhere on the ship or on at any sith base in the game. And based on the bio of the sith fighters in the sw databank says Little concern appears to have been given to the to the comfort of the Sith fighter pilot, and only the most essential subsystems were included. further indicates that sentients were at the helm of sith ships not droids as shown in the CIS
Quit pulling numbers out your ass. We have no idea how many people were apart of Revan's sith empire prior to Malak's betrayal.
Last edited by Elite Hunter on Apr 19th, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: University of Texas-Austin(Aka libe
All signs point to Revan having that exact same battle awareness. As i've stated earlier, Caedus may have more potential in the force as a Skywalker, but Revan's force mastery is superior to Caedus'.