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Spartan 063
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Revan Vs. darth Caedus

Darth Caedus has the GA fleet as in the end of revelation
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Darth Revans Sith Empire


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Darth Sexy
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Seeing as how the GA fleet isn't exactly all powerful, whereas Revan has unlimited supply of ships and a brilliant tactical mind, Caedus goes bye bye.

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Lucien A
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Huh, I'm actually stumped. Technologically inferior, yet vast Sith armada, vs. technologically superior GA fleet.

How big was the GA Fleet at revelations end?


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Darth Exodus
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Not big.

Revan wins this without difficulty. But hang on, if we're talking about Revans entire empire vs Caedus's battered and bruised fleet then this hardly seems fair.

Also factor in Revans brilliant mind against Jacens cracked one and you might just have a curpstomp. Out of interest, do they get to use Force powers?


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Revan


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If I remember correctly, Colonel Solo was in command of over half of the assembled Galactic Alliance fleet at the second Battle of Fondor, and his numbers were further assisted when the Moff Council pledged the support of the Imperial fleet to Solo upon the assassination of Grand Admiral Pellaeon. What one must remember is that it is highly unlikely (one might even go so far as to say impossible) that the fleets present at Fondor in their entirety. The Galactic Alliance, Imperial Remnant, Confederation, and government-in-exile as led by Admiral Cha Niathal likely possess far more vessels and fleets that are positioned throughout the galaxy.

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Seeing as how the GA fleet isn't exactly all powerful,


All powerful? Well, no entity is, but compared to Revan's empire? It might as well be.

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whereas Revan has unlimited supply of ships and a brilliant tactical mind, Caedus goes bye bye.


Revan's unlimited ships don't appear in fleetsize out of thin air. It takes time and resources to construct. Meanwhile, Jacen Solo is in possession of superior Force strength, vastly superior fleet strength, and potent battle meditation.

He wins.

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I also question if it is possible for Revan to have an unlimited fleet. While he may have the an unlimited supply of ships, I don't recall it ever saying that those ships can be used by droids if he didn't the necessary amount of men to operate them.

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Revan's unlimited ships don't appear in fleetsize out of thin air. It takes time and resources to construct.



That's not what the end-of-KOTOR cutscene suggests.

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Meanwhile, Jacen Solo is in possession of superior Force strength


Bull. Revan has about 200 Sith in her empire.

200> 2

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and potent battle meditation.


Revan might have Bastila. But I don't know, Which Darth Revan is this?

If not then all I can say is that Revan's tactics could counteract this imbalance.


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Originally posted by Darth Exodus
That's not what the end-of-KOTOR cutscene suggests.


That would be the darkside non-canon ending of the game and even then it is obvious that it takes time to build. The star forge just doesn't shoot an a entire fleet out its @$$. Each individual ship has to take time to build.

I see the star forge producing ships similar to the clones being produced on Kamino. There are most likely different ships at different stages of development

Also as I said before there is no indication that droids can pilot those ships without any sentient beings aboard them. While he may have a source of unlimited ships they are useless if he doesn't have the necessary manpower to operate them.


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Bull. Revan has about 200 Sith in her empire.


You know Revan is a him as you have been told numerous times now, so cut the "her" crap.

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Originally posted by Darth Exodus
That's not what the end-of-KOTOR cutscene suggests.


Elite Hunter has already taken care of this.

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Bull. Revan has about 200 Sith in her empire.

200> 2


I meant between him and Darth Revan, Caedus has the superior strength in the Force.

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Revan might have Bastila. But I don't know, Which Darth Revan is this?


Only the non-canon Darth Revan would have Bastilla on his side.

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If not then all I can say is that Revan's tactics could counteract this imbalance.


Prove it.

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Caedus has superior strength in the force? That remains to be seen Escape. Furthermore, what's to say Revan didn't have this battle awareness that Caedus has? It is unlikely that he could have been such a brilliant tactician without some battle awareness abilities. Also, you can hang on the fact that the firepower goes to the GA, but then you'd have to quantify how many of Revan's "unlimited" ships are equal to how many of Caedus' army.

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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Caedus has superior strength in the force? That remains to be seen Escape.


When one puts the chronology into context, there is very little doubt that Colonel Solo is superior to Darth Revan. Solo was second only to Luke Skywalker in the Order, putting him well ahead of the likes of Kyp Durron and Kyle Katarn.

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Furthermore, what's to say Revan didn't have this battle awareness that Caedus has? It is unlikely that he could have been such a brilliant tactician without some battle awareness abilities.


You have proof that Darth Revan was capabl

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When one puts the chronology into context, there is very little doubt that Colonel Solo is superior to Darth Revan. Solo was second only to Luke Skywalker in the Order, putting him well ahead of the likes of Kyp Durron and Kyle Katarn.

Force potential? Yes. Force mastery? Very unlikely.



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You have proof that Darth Revan was capabl


Besides me saying I think I read it somewhere, the likes of Palpatine and Naga Sadow had it, as sith masters with a certain amount of force mastery. Revan's ability to push the Mandalorians back has as much to do with his superior skills, as his battle awareness.

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Revan. Though the only support I have is that the GA stinks!
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You know Revan is a him as you have been told numerous times now, so cut the "her" crap.


LOL. It's funny how you guys spaz out over that. You may as well give up, I'm never gonna change just coz you told me to. And, yes, Revan is cannonally male, I just DON'T CARE.

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I meant between him and Darth Revan, Caedus has the superior strength in the Force.


We're talking about Empires here, not individuals.

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Also as I said before there is no indication that droids can pilot those ships without any sentient beings aboard them. While he may have a source of unlimited ships they are useless if he doesn't have the necessary manpower to operate them.



Theres every indication. In the movies, the CSI capital ships were crewed by... Droid's. Ships can be crewed by droids easily and efficiently. And the Star forge can also create supplies of droids.

Also, if we're talking about Revan's entire empire then Revan has Billions of conscripts ready. Her Empire was star-spanning with trillions of people under her control.

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You have proof that Darth Revan was capabl


The Handmaiden talked at length about Revan's enhanced battle awareness, and it all sounded surspiciously like Caedus's wierd ability. I think that she actually talk's about Revan being able to predict enemy movements and tactics.


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Only the non-canon Darth Revan would have Bastilla on his side.


That's why I asked which Revan this was.


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Prove it.



Revan took a battered and broken army and went on to beat the greatest force in the galaxy. According to Rand, Billions were dying so you can be sure that they were tight on numbers also. Despite all of this, Revan creamed them totally and then came back for seconds with the Republic.

Nuff said.

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Theres every indication. In the movies, the CSI capital ships were crewed by... Droid's. Ships can be crewed by droids easily and efficiently. And the Star forge can also create supplies of droids.


And there were Numodians(sp) on the ships as well and they were the ones in charge of the ships not droids. Furthermore when you play on the Leviathan you see no droids in any position of influence anywhere on the ship or on at any sith base in the game. And based on the bio of the sith fighters in the sw databank says Little concern appears to have been given to the to the comfort of the Sith fighter pilot, and only the most essential subsystems were included. further indicates that sentients were at the helm of sith ships not droids as shown in the CIS


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Also, if we're talking about Revan's entire empire then Revan has Billions of conscripts ready. Her Empire was star-spanning with trillions of people under her control.

Quit pulling numbers out your ass. We have no idea how many people were apart of Revan's sith empire prior to Malak's betrayal.

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All signs point to Revan having that exact same battle awareness. As i've stated earlier, Caedus may have more potential in the force as a Skywalker, but Revan's force mastery is superior to Caedus'.

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Everyones potential is limitless. So, if Revan has better force mastery, then that is the deciding factor.

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Everyones potential is limitless. So, if Revan has better force mastery, then that is the deciding factor.


Idiotic statement.

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When you can't argue against a point, use insults.

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