Registered: Apr 2008
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Err... no, Yoda kicks Exar Kun's ass.
Imagine the folllowing dialoge:
Sidious: "Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda. Now you will experience the full power of the dark side..."
Yoda: "Quiet you be, the most devastating foe the darkness had ever known I am."
See, it doesn't work. It was stated by the omniscent narrator; there's a simple way to analyze the outcome of this fight. According to the author of the Kun comics and all, he's Sidious' inferior, and Yoda is Sidious' equal, so that already states that Yoda > Kun.
No, Kun was called the darkest power in the galaxy of his time by the narrator. And btw Kun was defeated by his master in their first duel on dantooine (he even amits to this on Coruscant) then he wont he second duel when he had 2 lightsabers thanks to Crado. So you lose there. Now if you are going to argue about Kun beating Yoda provide a real argument because the quote is canon.
He then went on to become vastly more powerful and pwn that same masters ass in front of 20,000 people.
But I'll rephrase that for you: Exar Kun in his prime was never defeated by a lightsider and so that quote does not make Yoda better that him
Just becuase someones your greatest enemy doesn't mean that you lose. For example: Napoleon could be called the greatest enemy of the british, as he nearly conqoured us, yet he still lost at Waterloo.
The quote doesn't automatically put Yoda above Kun your right there, what the quote does do is state that Yoda was the most powerful lightsider to date.We know that Kun was in a grand total of one lightsaber duel in his prime while Yoda who was far from his physical prime was actively in the front lines of the clone wars facing duelists around the same caliber as kun and if not higher in Dooku and Sidious.
Last edited by Elite Hunter on May 30th, 2008 at 06:44 PM
No, it doesnt, but since yoda=sideous, The most powerful sith lord according to g cannon, Sideous would obviously be above Kun in terms of power and skills. By way of a=b>c, yoda wins this.
But macarthur or paton would beat napoleon. They came afterwards and were able to study napoleon's attacks, tactics, and abilities, and have far more resources and technology at their disposal.
1. Napoleon never 'nearly' conquered Britain. He abandoned any invasion plan before he even fought at Trafalgar
2. Yoda still remains the most powerful lightsider until Luke. Just because Kun was never defeated by a single Jedi means nothing unless he fought someone of Yoda's power. He didn't.
And? See you're pulling some statement, two can play the game, just because noone in Kun's time defeated him, does not mean that none of them were as STRONG as Yoda.
By defining greatest enemy the darkness has ever known, it doesn't necessarily mean just pure and utter power. Yoda had a lot more wisdom and a lot more abilities than just force powers, hence the interpretation of such a quote is also up to each individual reader.
You can't say they're wrong because you think differently.
Just for the record i still believe Marka Ragnos would beat Luke Skywalker in any shape or form, but that doesn't mean i'm right, neither does it mean im wrong.
Lack of equal evidence on the individual characters means that you simply can't place them side by side and judge them on that.
Kun has far less evidence on him, we still do not know the true extent of his power as opposed to Yoda and Luke who have volumes of books telling us how great they were and etc.
How does that quote equate to Yoda being more powerful than Exar Kun? Oh wait, it doesn't. It simply means he's the most powerful lightsider (allegedly).
Registered: Apr 2008
Location: Bringing forth the apocalypse
I didn't use it to prove him being more powerful than Exar Kun. And he's not 'allegedly'- he's canonically the most powerful lightsider, up until NJO Luke. And I really can't think of anyone in the NJO who surpassed Yoda.
Now then, a better assessment would be to see how Yoda stalemated with Sidious, a being who was confirmed by multiple sources to be greater than Exar Kun- and was called Sidious' equal by George Lucas. Sidious > Kun. Yoda = Sidious. I think that puts Yoda above Kun, don't you think?
I can't think of a single jedi that I would put ahead of Yoda prior to ROTS. I'd give sabers to Yoda but the force battle is closer. Kun has his amulets yet Yoda is incredibly fast and his small size would help him dodge it.
However this next point that I will bring up has been bothering for a long time now. So maybe someone can come up with an answer to it. In the Jedi academy series Kun's spirit and Kyp attack luke with ebony lightning and the narrator says that all the defenses Luke(post DE btw so he is no amateur) tried failed and it specifically mentioned the defenses he learned from Yoda and Obiwan. Now one has to account for the fact that Luke left his training early to save Han and Leia, however if Luke was one of the last remaining hopes of the galaxy to kill the sith then Yoda who knows who Vader is and personally dueled the emperor and knows how deadly the latter can be, particularly with force lightning then wouldn't it make sense for Yoda to try and teach Luke some type of defense for it?
Rots Yoda vs Exar Kun
May 16th, 2008 02:53 AM
FER TEA!!
