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The superconducting loop wouldn't apply, but Mace is still darn good. If Kenobi goes into overload on defense, that leaves Anakin to fight a tired out mace. I'm cautiously going to give this to the team.
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The team barely beat Dooku and I think Mace is above Dooku. If Dooku could come close to doing so and his defeat to Anakin is already looked at with much skepticism. I pretty sure Mace could pull off a win.
Anakin and Obi Wan would crush Mace, both individually have a chance at beating Mace (Anakin much more-so). Dooku was forced to use the force/droids/distractions to stop the duo from massacring him together. Mace is nowhere near as skilled as Dooku with the force so that stops him from seperating the team. His Vaapad is nearly useless against Kenobi's defense, combined with Anakin's onslaught dynamic duo will make short work of Windu.
I do not know that many of Mace's feats but your statement is true about Dooku using many distractions. Did not think of that before. But I do not think that Obi Wan and Anakin will take out Mace quickly.
Also how skilled is Mace with the force? I always looked at him as powerful and very skilled. Is Dooku that much better?
First off there is a difference from finding one's shatterpoint and being able to exploit it especially with more than one oppenent.
Lol nice argument, I counter with tell that to Dooku or Cin Drallig.
Scenario: Obiwan and Anakin double team Mace who uses his saber much more then he uses the force so they take him in lightsaber combat. Mace's force crush can be be countered and his biggest advantage (vapaad) is negated. The team is close to Mace's saber skills to begin with and Mace isn't noted to be a force powerhouse. Therefore he loses.
Registered: Apr 2008
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Mace dies painfully. Seriously- defeating either one of them in individual combat would require difficulty, when you factor in both of them... it's rather difficult to imagine a situation where Mace would win.
That being said, though, he may be capable of killing one of them before he goes down.
Excuse me? 'Barely beat Dooku'? Anakin alone wiped the floor with him. Did you miss the part where he gets destroyed?
And, nobody ever said Dooku was a match for his master.
Not necessarily. In ROTS, Anakin and Obi-Wan were having a much harder time with him while working together; it was only after Dooku disposed of Kenobi when Anakin was able to defeat him. They do not necessarily fight better when they're together.
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They weren't exactly having hard time, they were crushing Dooku together, hence the need for the distractions/the force. Dooku couldn't even pierce Kenobi's defense.
Registered: Jun 2007
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The "struggling" was explained in the book as a distraction, with the two Jedi using styles that they were unused to. Obi Wan does not start with soreseu, at least in the book. As they are shown using flips (ataru) in the movie, the Book isn't contradicting anything, so it is cannon in this case. It was only after Dooku disposed of Kenobi that Anakin needed to use his true form. (ushering in the age of pwn-zor 1!!!!11!!1!!!!0)
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