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Dooku pulls Luke apart at the seams. He has force superiority, and more experience dueling. He beat Mace, pwnd AotC Kenobi and Anakin, stood up to YODA, and has been called 'one of the best duelists in the order's 25000 year history' (and that was pre- darkside)
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I no longer want to hear people say he stood up to Yoda. Yoda was not trying in any form or fashion to hurt Dooku. If he wanted to he could have taken out Dooku faster than Anakin did.
Also Luke only had a few weeks of training? Is that canon or your opinion?
Anakin may have had more force potential than Vader but not more knowledge of the force. Vader was more dangerous than Anakin every was and Luke took him down.
Yes we can say, which I believe Vader did not want to hurt Luke but that sure is not stopping people from saying that Dooku stood up to Yoda.
Last edited by Kotor3 on Aug 18th, 2008 at 09:09 PM
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FAIL. You cannot understand that Mark Hamill proceeded to do the voice of the Joker, who can magic pencil tricks. Therefore, it is logical to assume that Luke can also do magic pencil tricks.
Registered: Jun 2003
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This is a good matchup. I believe that if Luke embraces the darkside, he beats Dooku.
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Registered: Jun 2003
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You gotta remember Luke has youth and stamina on his side. This is what enabled Obi Wan to defeat Maul when Qui Gon couldnt.
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Registered: Apr 2008
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I don't have time to get into a debate with you at the moment- I gotta go soon- but Dooku has perfected his mastery of Makashi (the dueling form, mind you) over his extensive lifespan to its apex. He can defeat General Grievous- Mr. 20 strikes per second- in combat, tool two talented Jedi in the form of Sora Bulq and Tholme while fatigued from fighting the 'most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known', and has an incredible mastery of the force and experience in dueling. He doesn't even need to engage Luke in a duel- if he could took Ventress, Luke's superior in the force via force abilities alone, I'm certain he could do the same to Luke. With ridiculous ease.
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So he defeated Grievous, didnt ROTS Kenobi do the same?
and thanx.
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Registered: Apr 2008
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Yes. RotS Kenobi, the ultimate master of Soresu (the form best-suited to duel Grievous) defeated him. Do you really want to compare RotS Kenobi and Luke, though?
Registered: Jun 2003
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Nah I guess not. I thought you were going, LIAR!!!
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dooku absolutely shitstomps ROTJ luke in every category. dooku is extremely adept in both his usage of the force, and in his skills with a lightsaber. luke, on the otherhand, reminded me of stevie wonder trying to hit a pinata with a flyswatter. at best.
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1) experience doesnt always equal win, dooku had 3 times as much training as anakin but still lost to him. qui gon had 2 times as much training as maul but still lost to him. so expirience =/= win.
2) they didnt have the neccesary tools to make OT look impressive, there is no need to be starstruck with CGI. if they had it back then opinions would be reveresed
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Dooku kills Luke with his lightsaber before Luke can embrace the darkside but if Luke could survive long enough to use the dark side Dooku use force lighting, just like when he used it on Anakin in AOTC
Registered: Jun 2003
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We dont know whether or not Luke can block force lightning with his saber like Kenobi did in AOTC.
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But we do know that when a jedi use's the dark side they might not think as they normally would. When Luke used the dark side against Vader he rushed in to attack him just like Anakin did at the start of his duel against dooku in AOTC. Kenobi was most likely prepared to block force lighting as he just witnessed Dooku use against Anakin while on the other hand Luke has no experience by that time against some one who can use force lighting
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