Have all of the Executor-Class and each has a Eclipse-Class to command from. Also, between them, atleast 200,000 Star Destroyer-Class ships
Full fighter capacity.
The fighters stored are Jedi Starfighters adpated so anybody can use them.
They are against the Vong and CIS combined.
Their soldiers are Mandalorians and Fett clones.
Whatever they have left(If they win, both Eclipse Class vessels survive)
if they come out victorious, the take on everybody in the war that Krayt and his Sith start.
No they lose...badly. The CIS is stated to have quintillions of battledroids and millions of capital ships alone in ICS. And the Vong managed to threaten the Galaxy at large and managed to take the Galactic Capital. That combined with the sheer prowest of GG who is quite the military Genius himself makes Thrawn and Revan dead men. Dooku will board Revan's flagship and impale him through the chest when the battle is done.
Half of the Empire's capital ships, as commanded by two near-omniscient tactitions, and the most powerful Destroyer in galactic history at their finger tips?
Meh. The Vong and CIS are threatening only due to sheer numbers. But Thrawn and Revan can win.
Hm I don't know they do have GG who was also a masterful tactician, and the only reason why Revan won in the Mandalorian wars is he vastly outnumbered him
General Grievous is a masterful condition. But he's definitely no Thrawn or Zaarin. Moreover, Revan won because he's a badass tactition in addition to numbers. Lastly, Imperial technology and militarization kicks the holy shit out of any other regime in history. You pick a Star Wars navy, and in every possible way, the Imperials do it better. Including the Vong and CIS. By a considerable margin.
Not convinced The Vong are exceptionally powerful warriors and have a descent Navy, as well as the CIS which pwns in the category of Naval engagements. I'd say the CIS and Vong win on sheer numbers. And personally I don't say Revan was that great of a tactician.
Nom Anor admits that the Empire would have crushed the Vong and given the ships at the command of Revan and Thrawn they would be more then a match for Vong.
Nom Anor was hardly right about everything. (not arguing your point. i think the empire would defeat the Vong, but i don't think it would have been a crushing victory) just saying Nom Anor is hardly the source you want to use to support that idea.
The empire would still have to contend with the technology curve. Though the empire would do what the GA(or was it the New Republic at the time? ah well) wouldn't do, and that was leave some planets completely unprotected to mass their forces and beat the vong in pitched battles, so that is a plus for the empire.
In this particular contest, i think Revan and Thrawn win easily. Thrawn has been able to defeat the computer minds of the CIS with ridiculous ease against impossible odds. You put that mind in with the galactic empire, and you take into account that it was Admiral Ackbar (a brilliant, but decidely lower tier tactician than thrawn) that figured out how to defeat the vong in the end anyway, and they win with ease.
I still have a pet theory that the Vong were the disturbance in the force that Revan sensed, and went off into the unknown regions to investigate. (largely because of the sighting of a Vong scouting ship in KOTOR) How many thousands of years in transit would it take the Vong to fly from one galaxy to the next? Considering their weird relationship with the force, is it possible that they would have created such a huge difference in the force? I've also heard it said that Sidious made his power grab, not because he thought it was time, but because he knew the Vong were coming and wanted to prepare the galaxy.
lastly: does it ever explain how the Vong got off of zonoma sekot in the first place and "lost it"?
Grievous' strategy is described as "without flaw" as shown on Hypori where he completely outmanuvered the GAR. I doubt that he can be considered a "computer" so I say the duel villains take this. I take back my comments on with ease thought
May I ask how a guy who has been spying on the galaxy for many years and has played a hand in fracturing the empire post DE is not a credible source to compare the New Republic's infrastructure (as well as the current state of affairs in the war) to the Empire's. Do I think it would be a wtfpwnage for the Vong no, but at the same time they would never have gotten nowhere near Coruscant.
Don't forget that Sidious might have had pre existing knowledge ( since around outbound flight) of the vong and Thrawn may have also had knowledge too. I don't want to get into a debate over this but the empire would have more superweapons and better organized military/government.
I highly doubt that because Revan was told hardly anything of the Vong scout ship other then it was really fast and fled the galaxy. Then we have the god awful creation of the True Sith which is a more likely opponent for Revan given the introduction of Malachor and Kreia's comment. As for Sidious gaining power to ready the galaxy against the Vong, I find that highly unlikely. I always got the impression that he used the idea of an extragalactic invasion as one reason to keep a powerful military force. Though technically as emperor he could do whatever the hell wanted.
The Yuuzhan Vong only contended with the seriously undermilitarized New Republic due to the machinations of individuals such as Nom Anor, who had moved a strong hand in galactic events for decades. As Elite Hunter has aluded to, it was Anor who arranged for what would be considered the final "destruction" of the Galactic Empire in Council of Blood. And even then, the New Republic still legitimately overcame the Vong in a fleet-to-fleet engagement. Compare this to the Galactic Empire, which was the product of an unprecedented military build up. The Confederacy of Independent systems may have remarkable numbers of cannon fodder, but they cannot compete with the Empire's vastly superior naval superiority and resources. Neither can the Vong.
Sep 11th, 2008 06:18 AM
