(Jedi Outcast) Luke Skywalker - vs - (Dynasty of Evil) Darth Bane
Luke Skywalker (As seen in Star Wars: Jedi Outcast)
Darth Bane (As seen in Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil)
These two warriors come face-to-face, after they are whisked by time and space, to do battle in a distant place.
Luke and Bane start 10 Feet away from each other, standing on the ground floor of the Massassi Temple courtyard on Yavin 4.
Darth Bane wants to eradicate Luke - and Luke doesn't try to turn Bane back to the Light - making it clear this is a potential duel to the death on Luke's end.
Below are stats added for your consideration on who would logically win in this duel.
I was brutally observant, but to be fair I only added one thing about Bane that is noteworthy for this duel.
Setting:Yavin IV, Massassi Temple, Ground-floor Courtyard.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Correct. Luke has been known to hold back even at the risk of countless lives due to his fear of the dark side. That's not as much of a problem in his later years, but Jedi Outcast is not too far after Dark Empire.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
Maybe. But it was either Desann or Leia and her kids - and the Universe.
And we saw what happened when Vader threatened Leia.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
That's exactly the point. Luke was horrified at nearly killing Vader out of anger, because it was what Palpatine wanted.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
But when Luke knew it was either Vader (the fallen Jedi) or Leia's life - he chose Leia.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Plus if you read both sections - good observations are pointed out.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
...And regretted attacking out of anger afterwards.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
He lasted a little bit longer than Kit Fisto would have - and Obi-wan was said to be a notch or two above Fisto in LoE.
Luke in a (non-BM enhanced) duel lasted ten or twenty seconds longer than Fisto - around how long Kenobi would have lasted before dying.
Yoda on the other hand carried a duel with Sidious for almost ten minutes - and won the swordsmanship area.
Luke is logistically on par with RotS Kenobi - not Yoda.
His dueling skills are realistically overestimated.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
We have a range of sources from the Hand of Thrawn duology to the Unifying Force to the Dark Nest series to Legacy of the Force: Invincible in which Luke's reluctance to be overly aggressive in his duels for fear of falling to the dark side is explored. We see that he restrains himself against Lumiya during their first duels, avoids conflict with Caedus after nearly killing him aboard the Anakin Solo, and he discussed his hesitation to call upon such energies twice, I believe, with Jacen.
Or there's the idea that Desann and Kyle Katarn are each more skilled or powerful than Luke Skywalker.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
To be fair - read the observations in the OP - Luke didn't try to turn Desann back in the fight - and when Desann got the Power of the Valley of the Jedi, he would be able to murder trillions of innocents - and turn Leia's children into Dark Jedi.
It was either Desann - or Luke's beloved family and the universe.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
As I explained, Luke has been known to restrain himself or extend mercy to enemies who pose tremendous threats, including Caedus.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
I didn't realize this signature had you so butthurt.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
First, where is it said that the duel lasted only a few seconds? I hope you aren't talking about the number of panels they are notorious for not giving a fair time frame. Consider the Vader/Kenobi duel in RotS. In the movie it strechs on for a long time, but in the comic it's only a few pages.
Not really. He outdueled Palps at the end of DE. Sure, some may say Leia was using BM, however in the audio book the duel is from Leia's perspective and nothing hints at her using it.
Edit: Oh, and they were dueling so fast Leia could hardly see them.
Jun 2nd, 2012 02:08 AM
