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Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma vs Count Dooku and Asajj Ventress
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Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma vs Count Dooku and Asajj Ventress

all at there peak who wins who dies?


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Team 1.


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I'm going with Team 1 as well.


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Shocker.


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Team 2. Dooku's Makashi will push in Exar's Niman.


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...yeah, in a pure dueling battle. Which this isn't.


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Uliq and Exar are every bit the equal to Dooku in bladework. And superior to Ventress. Kun's amulet blasts take it though. He's also got a ton of esoteric powers. Given Dooku getting pwned by Talzin I could see Kun beating him by the same spirit sundering attack he did on Luke.


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Ventress is out of her depth here.

And Dooku isn't taking them by himself.

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Team 2 wins.


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Uliq and Exar are every bit the equal to Dooku in bladework. And superior to Ventress. Kun's amulet blasts take it though. He's also got a ton of esoteric powers. Given Dooku getting pwned by Talzin I could see Kun beating him by the same spirit sundering attack he did on Luke.


They have literally nothing proving they are equal to Dooku in bladework. Right, except this is presumably Exar before he has 4,000 years in the netherworld. Also Talzin required a ritual, which Kun will have no time to prepare.

Additionally Talzin is very likely more powerful than Exar Kun. Qel Droma is impressive, but no more impressive than Anakin who Ventress has consistently held off.


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Exar can make short work of Ventress, or Ulic can hold him off for Exar to put her down.

Exar and Ulic will take Dooku out. Ventress is the Count's weak link. If it were Maul Team 2 might take it. But Exar is too much for her and she isn't going to take Ulic out.


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Exar can make short work of Ventress,


Eh, not really.

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or Ulic can hold him off for Exar to put her down.


He won't last longer against Dooku than Ventress does Exar.

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Exar and Ulic will take Dooku out. Ventress is the Count's weak link. If it were Maul Team 2 might take it. But Exar is too much for her and she isn't going to take Ulic out.


If it were Maul this match would be spite. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Ventress gets roflstomped. Then the duo can overtake Dooku.

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Eh, not really.


By smashing her down like he did to Vodo and Crado, blasting her/stunning her, hitting her with illusions. She isn't on his level. She'll put up a fight but she isn't going to beat him.

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He won't last longer against Dooku than Ventress does Exar.
And she wont beat him like she failed to take out Plo.


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As long as Ulic doesn't have Marka Ragnos in his pocket, I'd disagree.


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By smashing her down like he did to Vodo and Crado, blasting her/stunning her, hitting her with illusions. She isn't on his level. She'll put up a fight but she isn't going to beat him.


Ventress>Vodo and Crado. Those blasts are direct and can be dodged by someone with Assaj's agility. Also, we're arguing Ulic vs Ventress, not Exar.


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By smashing her down like he did to Vodo and Crado, blasting her/stunning her, hitting her with illusions. She isn't on his level. She'll put up a fight but she isn't going to beat him.

And she wont beat him like she failed to take out Plo.



And what exactly does Vodo have to put him above the greatest PT swordsman? And even if we say he is on par with/ above them, he was using a bloody walking stick. The time he lost to Exar were due to him being stupid and not foreseeing Exar shattering the staff.


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They have literally nothing proving they are equal to Dooku in bladework. Right, except this is presumably Exar before he has 4,000 years in the netherworld. Also Talzin required a ritual, which Kun will have no time to prepare.

Additionally Talzin is very likely more powerful than Exar Kun. Qel Droma is impressive, but no more impressive than Anakin who Ventress has consistently held off.


Hyuk hyuk, ok Stark, sure. Lets just ignore Ulic dueling a pissed off Jedi without the Force or 20 years of practice. Lets ignore Kun beating his 300 year old bladesmaster. Lets ignore Exar creating his own style, taking Niman to its highest level and having a unique weapon Kun can constantly modify to give himself an edge. Yeah, literally nothing. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Talzin required a ritual true, but I didn't say Kun would use the same technique, did I? I said he'd use the technique he did against Luke, which doesn't require a ritual. And since he didn't exactly have any reading material in the netherworld, I'm pretty sure he knew the technique while he was alive.

Talzin has shown nothing to indicate she's more powerful than Kun, who's sorcery froze thousands of people. Dueling Windu for 20 seconds doesn't put her above Exar Kun. Ulic is more powerful than Ventress. She might hold him off for a time but he will beat her.

And Kun is Ulic's superior or equal in combat so if you put him on Anakin's level he can hang with Dooku. And with his sheer strength and other advantages probably beat him.


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[B]Hyuk hyuk, ok Stark, sure. Lets just ignore Ulic dueling a pissed off Jedi without the Force or 20 years of practice. Lets ignore Kun beating his 300 year old bladesmaster. Lets ignore Exar creating his own style, taking Niman to its highest level and having a unique weapon Kun can constantly modify to give himself an edge. Yeah, literally nothing. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Yeah lets just ignore Dooku fending off Mace, or Dooku consistently out sparring Mace who literally invented his own form of lightsaber combat. Lets also ignore the fact that Sidious all but outright stated that Maul is inferior to Dooku as an apprentice. Maul, who even Darth Plagueis commented on his raw skill, Maul who demolished one of the most skilled battlemasters in the Order's History, Maul who combined Tera Kasi, Juyo, AND Exar Kun's Niman.

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Talzin required a ritual true, but I didn't say Kun would use the same technique, did I? I said he'd use the technique he did against Luke, which doesn't require a ritual. And since he didn't exactly have any reading material in the netherworld, I'm pretty sure he knew the technique while he was alive.


Prove he knew the technique while he was alive. Scratch that, prove that he could use the technique while he was still alive.

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Talzin has shown nothing to indicate she's more powerful than Kun, who's sorcery froze thousands of people. Dueling Windu for 20 seconds doesn't put her above Exar Kun. Ulic is more powerful than Ventress. She might hold him off for a time but he will beat her.


>Dueling Windu for more than 30 seconds.
>Being considered dangerous by Sidious.
>Being capable of possessing Dooku.
>Making Savage from roughly on par with Ventress in H2H to WAY above her via ritual.
>Teleportation
>Being outright stated by Sidious that she's too powerful to send an army after her.


And we are likely going to get even more feats for her soon.
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And Kun is Ulic's superior or equal in combat so if you put him on Anakin's level he can hang with Dooku. And with his sheer strength and other advantages probably beat him.


I put Kun as roughly equal to Anakin. Ulic is slightly below Anakin though. He's not really shown anything in the area of force defences.


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