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Mace Windu vs. DE Luke Skywalker
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Marco1907
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Mace Windu vs. DE Luke Skywalker

Force, sabers all out.


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Luke. His speed and skill matches Palpatines.


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Luke. His speed and skill matches Palpatines.


And Mace's is not ?


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No.


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And Mace's is not?

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No.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Vaapad


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Using the amp he got from Sidious as an indication that he is as fast as Sidious is, is a fallacy at best.

The Vaapad amp was massive and he wasn't even thinking about what he was doing he just threw all his eggs into one basket and let Vaapad do it for him, he still would've died the moment Sidious stopped using a lightsaber.

Mace was pissed off to unimaginable levels even before the amp.. his inner darkness was greater than ever before, the institution and government he prized and loved so much, the war he saw countless beings and friends die in... all of it was just some Sith plot to gain power.

Then add the amp on top of that and you realize how waaaay beyond his regular power Windu was.


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Sinious
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He has absolutely no chance against Luke.


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Lol @ everything everyone has said in this thread.


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Arhael
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Vaapad is not a Force technique. It's a mindset, thus can be equally used against anyone with same effectiveness.

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Sinious
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Its charged by the opposition's anger/darkness though.


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^It's mostly charged by Windu's inner darkness, which was at an all time high in that fight.

So we could call it a Peak performance for Windu.

Also perhaps Windu is just best suited to fight Sidious. Kind of like how Kenobi was best suited to fight Skywalker. .

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Its charged by the opposition's anger/darkness though.

Not really.
It's more about relishing fight, giving yourself to the trill of battle.

Regardless, according to The Making of ROTS Windu is a level 9 combatant, which is on level with Yoda and Sidious.

I am, also, willing to give an element of the doubt that Sidious during DE was out of practice, so not as good as in RotS.

So it would be a great fight, with more or less even odds.

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Simple usage of Vaapad ;

quote:
Standing toe to toe, the top of Mace's head barely came to the level of Vastor's chin, and you could have tucked Mace's whole thick-muscled upper body inside Vastor's chest with room to spare. And even hurt, lurching drunkenly, Vaster still could whip his arms in blindingly fast raking slaps at Mace's head and wounded neck. But where Vastor's speed was blinding,
Mace's was invisible .Not one of those slaps connected. Before Vastor could even focus his eyes, Mace had hit him six times: two thundering hooks to his short ribs, a knee slamming hard into the same thigh he'd hit before, an elbow snapping up to the point of his chin, and two devastating palm strikes to either hinge of his jaw.




Vastor's mighty arms spasmed and dropped limply to his sides. "This is called Vaapad, Kar." A fierce light burned in Mace's eyes. "How many arms do you see?"


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Sinious
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And does he not reflect the opponents darkness back at him? You all make it sound like who the opponent is does not matter at all.


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I've always taken it as him deflecting the power of his opponent's blows back at them. Making him the perfect opponent for Sidious. But absorbing and deflecting the dark side of the Force itself from an opponent makes little to no sense to me personally.

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Sinious
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I've always taken it as him deflecting the power of his opponent's blows back at them. Making him the perfect opponent for Sidious. But absorbing and deflecting the dark side of the Force itself from an opponent makes little to no sense to me personally.


I never meant to specifically state it like that. I wonder how Sidious' lightning effected him.

Windu's performance varies a lot. Taking his ROTS performance only would lead to inaccurate opinions.

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Sidious' Lightning didn't really effect him at all. It passed in and out of his body, because Vaapad is a channel as well as a state if mind. Sidious did push this to the limits, however.

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Windu's performance varies a lot. Taking his ROTS performance only would lead to inaccurate opinions.


In AotC, Nick Gillard personally declared Windu as ''second only to Yoda'' in terms of power, and same in clone wars as well. He also speedblitzed Jango Fett in AotC, who was good enough to fight equally with AotC Kenobi, and good enough to kill council member Coleman Trebor.


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In AotC, Nick Gillard personally declared Windu as ''second only to Yoda'' in terms of power, and same in clone wars as well. He also speedblitzed Jango Fett in AotC, who was good enough to fight equally with AotC Kenobi, and good enough to kill council member Coleman Trebor.


Yeah pretty impressive. Still nothing suggests that he would be a lethal threat to DE Luke.

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