Dooku was implied to be the best Jedi produced by the order during the several centuries that Yoda reigned. I think that qualifies him as a powerhouse as well. And if it doesn't, being the only person sans Yoda to defeat Mace Windu does.
He's a top of the line swordsman and a master of the Force, likely stronger than anyone the Barsen'thor has faced before. The idea that she could handle him easily is, as Ant would say, lolworthy.
It wasn't suppose to be a 8+ post discussion, but rather a spiteful yet friendly jab, similarly to what you did to me the other day ago.
Tulak Hord, Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Darth Nihilus, Master Wyellett, Jaric Kaedan, Tol Bragga, Ven Zallow, and Kas'im are examples.
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He still has nothing on the Barsen'thor's level. He is extremely powerful and skilled, but Thor has better TK feats than Dooku does as a Sith Lord, when he was superior to his Jedi incarnation and she has overall superior showings, feats and hype by far.
I doubt that he's stronger than Vivicar or the First Son.
I consider all of the above top 20 material, easily. Though because they're ambiguous on the whole, I don't have any precise placements for them--which is the same case as Dooku.
I generally rank these guys pretty high, not sure what you're talking about. I mean, do you expect me to put them above Kenobi or something? Because I can tell you right now that his hype is better than all of theirs.
Last edited by NewGuy01 on Dec 16th, 2014 at 08:43 PM
Kenobi or Jedi Dooku? Wyellet was hyped as so powerful that the Republic classified him as a superweapon. Hard to get better hype than that, bro. Kaedan beating the Dread Master's, Zallow matching Malgus, Braga giving end of Act III HoT a tough fight and Kas'im mastering every aspect of lightsaber combat are all preeety darn great pieces of hype and implied prowess.
And he was defeated by the Wrath in mid-Act II. Considering how by this point Wrath was unable to defeat Ekkage or Venegean by himself, Wyellett really can't be better than the upper-class Dark Councillors; but he's up there, to be sure.
He and his forces captured them, that doesn't mean he defeated or even fought them. Kaedan too was killed by the Wrath (or Nox), after all. Still, he's a master of Juyo-Kos and according to the encyclopedia wan one of the leaders of the Council; he's obviously solid.
From my perspective that's a little backwards. The fact that he defeated Zallow is what defines Malgus's skill, not the other way around--and even then, I don't consider Malgus to be Dooku's superior by that point anyway.
@Rest: Not sure what you're trying to prove. Sora Bulq gave Mace Windu a good fight too, and he's still not as good as Dooku or Obi-Wan.
He defeated Vengean nigh-solo (Draag gives the Wrath the lion's share of the credit for his assassination,) and Darth Ekkage's hype matches that of Darth Maul. Considering she felled a sith lord with a casual burst of lightning (and I'm pretty sure destroyed his lightsaber,) it's no wonder the wrath as of early act 2 couldn't solo her.
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Given the above I doubt turning Sith Lord gave Dooku anything more than a moderate improvement in Force Powers plus obviously added Force Lightning to his list of abilities.