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Wrath Runs the Gauntlet
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Col. Valerian
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Wrath Runs the Gauntlet

I'm curious as to where you rank him compared to other notable Sith and Jedi. Wrath II, obviously.

Scenarios:
1. All-out
2. Saber duel

Full rest between each opponent.


1. AotC Anakin
2. Kit Fisto
3. RotS Kenobi
4. KotoR Revan (end game)
5. Scourge
6. Meetra Surik
7. Darth Maul
8. Ventress
9. Darth Zannah
10. Mace Windu (without Vapaad)
11. Vader
12. Dooku
13. DoE Bane
14. Nox
15. Exar Kun


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What are Wrath's best force feats for anyone who is knowledgeable on him?


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He's not really a major Force user, more defensive. His best feat is probably resisting the Dread Masters fleet-destroying mental attack.


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What on earth is with this ordering?

Well, he probably stops at 3 or 4. Though he could basically strut through 5 and 6 before stopping again at 7, and then he could still handle 8. stick out tongue


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Col. Valerian
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Lol, I just realized how messed up my order is.

Let me rearrange that:

1. AotC Anakin
2. Kit Fisto
3. Ventress
4. RotS Kenobi
5. Darth Maul
6. KotoR Revan
7. Scourge
8. Meetra Surik
9. Darth Zannah
10. Mace Windu (without Vapaad)
11. Vader
12. Dooku
13. DoE Bane
14. Nox
15. Exar Kun


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Vader is above Dooku as per canon sources. And how can you have Mace Windu without Vaapad...that's an unquantifiable. Its like saying Yoda without Ataru or Dooku without Makashi. Mace is Vaapad and Vaapad is Mace as he's the only one to truly master it.


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It's just that I find it difficult to quantify effectively the impact Vapaad would have on the fight, as opposed to Ataru or Soresu or whatever. I'd say just imagine Wrath is a light sider, and analyze the fight in that manner. But maybe it's easier to just let him have Vapaad for this fight.


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Considering vaapad doesn't normally amp him to the levels he was at in ROTS, I don't see why it should be removed. I feel like that's what most people are referring to when they take "take vaapad out" of a fight.

He's not going to be fighting at Sidious levels with vaapad normally. Just look at his fight with Dooku where they stalemated or his fight with Ventress.


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Alright, he has Vaapad.


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quote:

1. AotC Anakin
2. Kit Fisto
3. Ventress


All wins.

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4. RotS Kenobi
5. Darth Maul
6. KotoR Revan


Probably(?) all losses, not bad fights though

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7. Scourge
8. Meetra Surik


These guys shouldn't pose much of a threat, they'll put up fights but still shouldn't be after 4-6.

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9. Darth Zannah


Uh, not sure. Should be pretty interesting, the Wrath could certainly win; for now I'll say this is a loss, though.

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10. Mace Windu (without Vapaad)
11. Vader
12. Dooku
13. DoE Bane
14. Nox
15. Exar Kun


All losses here with the possible exception of Nox.

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I think TOR Meetra is above KOTOR Revan. Barely, though. I believe he might win 4, 5, 6, tbh.


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All wins.



Probably(?) all losses, not bad fights though



These guys shouldn't pose much of a threat, they'll put up fights but still shouldn't be after 4-6.



Uh, not sure. Should be pretty interesting, the Wrath could certainly win; for now I'll say this is a loss, though.



All losses here with the possible exception of Nox.


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I think he'll lose handily to Nox. He is a total powerhouse. That said, imo people heavily underestimate Wrath.

1. Win.
1. Win.
3. Win.
4. Win.
5. Win.
6. Win.
7. Win.
8. Win.
9. Not sure. Possible win, but it's hard to say.
10. He'd probably lose about 7/10 against Mace.
11. He'll most likely lose, but not without a good fight first.
12. Same as 11
13. Lose
14. Lose
15. Lose


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Beats Bane, Zannah, AOTC Anakin, Scourge,

Not sure about Surik

Loses to everyone else


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Beats Bane, Zannah, AOTC Anakin, Scourge,

Not sure about Surik

Loses to everyone else


Scourge way before his prime was Meetra's equal so...

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Originally posted by carthage
Beats Bane, Zannah, AOTC Anakin, Scourge,

Not sure about Surik

Loses to everyone else


Definitely beats Fisto, too.


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Maybe


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If he's more of a defensive force user, I see him losing to ROTS Kenobi in a duel.


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He oneshot a Jedi and multiple troopers win Tk before the Jedi could react, blitzed a Jedi that charged him, and dropped a massive slab of duracreet on a guy with a flick of a wrist. He could probably ragdoll Kenobi, I'm not sure if he could win sabers though, most likely not

In terms of skill Wrath is probably equal to Plo Koon/Mara Jade/Jaina Solo/Cade Skywalker in terms of skill. Low tier 8 duelist imo


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I wouldn't say he's defensive. As a duelist, he beat a Knight and a Master simultaneously, defeated Nomen Carr quite handily (who was regarded as one of the best duelists in the Order), defeated Darth Baras, blitzed Jedi and troopers... Off the top of my head.


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