ROTS Sidious/Mace Windu/Count Dooku vs. Vitiate/Exar Kun/Darth Plagueis
*Battle takes place on neutral ground4
Round 2: Team 1 gets Anakin, team 2 gets Jacen Solo (The Swarm wars)
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Vitiate without an amp will be defeated by Sidious easier than normal.
Dooku vs. Exar is a great fight.
But I'm really curious how Plagueis vs. Windu would turn out. Plagueis is a superior force-user, but Windu is more skilled, possibly can mattch him with Vaapad amp and has shattepoint.
Last edited by Stigma on Apr 1st, 2015 at 02:27 PM
Plagueis can overwhelm Mace with the force, and Plagueis obviously is more than a match for Sidious. Kun can defeat Mace via the force or hold off either of them in a duel, whereas, Vitiate can likely TP either.
Vaapad never helped Windu against Maul, Bulq, or Talzin. There is no reason to believe it'd work against Plagueis or Kun
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Last edited by carthage on Apr 1st, 2015 at 07:09 PM
Anyone on team one can beat anyone on team two.
Round two I might give to team 2 but a very hard fight.
Windu has never been overwhelmed by Force and he fought both Sidious and Talzin. Plagueis and Exar both are firmly below Sidious in every regard, they would need a lot of luck to defeat someone like Windu.
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Mace Windu's Vaapad amp is completely based in conditions and the situation. His own emotions were amplified exponentially knowing that he was the only thing between the Republic and the return of the Sith. Moreover he had just found out that the Supreme Chancellor himself had been the Dark Lord of the Sith manipulating the war all along.
Furthermore, he completely let himself lose control in his Vaapad and it was the only thing keeping him going, his being so fully enveloped allowed him to keep pace with Sidious and redirect the Sith's attacks. Even moreso is the fact that Mace fed off of Anakin Skywalker's fear to increase even further his own inner darkness.
That was a completely situational advantage on Mace Windu's part and is not applicable against anyone but Darth Sidious, whom is his clear superior in combat without that massive amplification.
Neither Dooku or Windu are Sidious tier on a regular day, so Exar Kun and Plagueis not quite being his equal either is hardly proof that the former are greater than the latter.
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ROTS Sidious has surpassed Plagueis...but he's the only one on team 1 that has, so he has to take his former master on. Trying to fence Vitiate to death is rather silly, so Dooku has to take Kun on.
That leaves Mace doing his best to Vapaad Vitiate, who will certainly be throwing off enough Dark Side for Mace to feed on.
Vaapad shouldn't work on Vitiate if it didn't work on Bulq, Maul, etc. Kun can compete with Windu as a duelist, and Plagueis can flat out overwhelm him in the force. Sidious would be hard pressed by Plagueis, and Vitiate can take out any either one Kun isnt fighting barring Sidious
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Don't know circumstances of Bulq. But you underestimate Maul. Maul is skilled enough to hold his own against the likes of Windu the same way Dooku can hold his own against Yoda.
Mar 31st, 2015 07:16 PM
