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Well Nox's advantage on the Force over Dooku is arguably pretty size-able. Though this falls under where one would assume Dooku is in comparison to Thanaton in force-only comparison. Both were capable of Force-flight and effective lightning, etc. In truth unlike with most characters, I do not believe I have seen anyone over-estimate Darth Thanaton unless he is being compared to Baras. Both of those characters being low-balled frequently often due to personal dislike. (I.E. Thanaton being the antagonist of the SI story-line and misconstrued use of Ravage bad-mouthing him to discredit his power, and Baras for being.... well... there is an entire thread on SWTOR on Baras fat jokes...)
In any case, while I feel Dooku takes sabers handily, Nox's Force supremacy does what characters/people who focus on that intend for it to do, make the sabers a non-plus. (While there is also an argument to be had as to whether or not Dooku's lightning is more potent than Nox's... I daresay Nox's. The margin of superiority here however,if one believes it exists, is anyone's guess/opinion). My main-staying point for this being Nox's... well... utter domination, dismantling, and suppression of Thanaton's Force defenses. We've seen countless of examples of brief pushes or exertions of power staggering or even pushing much more powerful individuals when they are surprised or unprepared. (I would direct anyone to Star Wars Rebels where Ezra and Kanaan manage to push Vader. Who, seconds later, demonstrates an impressive TK feat by lifting the AT-ST off of him with only what appears aggravated effort. Obviously were Vader not distracted he could have easily stopped their combined push.) That being said, rarely do we see a force user so utterly out-strip another as to actively suppress and continuously over-come another's defenses to completely force them into submission.
Do I believe Nox could do this to Dooku? Not necessarily, no. Do I believe Dooku's own lightning would be overcome by Nox's in a clash ALA Sidious and Talzin? Marginally. Do I believe that should Dooku begin with his saber he could slay Nox? A small chance, yes. I am hesitant to believe he could stop Dooku as he did Thanaton, but something more akin to when he flings Thanaton back on a slightly lesser scale. (Ignoring game mechanics here, where every Sith Acolyte of the Warrior archetype can use a Force Choke stun on you, realistically for someone of Nox/Dooku's caliber, those attempts would be laughable.). Also as shown Nox has rather substantial TK, as does Dooku. Though Nox has not shown the refinement necessary for the flight ability, I doubt any of us could argue effectively that they lack the raw power.
Make no mistake, I give credit where credit is due and Dooku is an effective wielder of the force. However here he is outstripped by raw talent and as it is NOX, quite a bit of amp-ing potential.
All-in-All I would give it to Nox in a majority. Though a cramped, confusing landscape would honestly shift things in Dooku's favor in my opinion. Obviously giving him the necessary terrain to get in close, something I don't doubt this analytical mind would make fairly easy.
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I did a massive comparison of these two for a thread on the SWTOR boards tbh.
TL;DR was that Dooku's a far greater swordsman, Nox is stronger in the force and could overpower him in a force duel. However in an all out fight, she can't do it fast enough to stop Dooku decapitating her.
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Fanon nonsense. Have Dooku beaten an opponent who have hype of insurmountable power in encyclopedic medium?
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I'd say Nox is as far below Dooku as a swordsman as Dooku is below Nox in the Force.
Vixas, Dooku's lightning is pretty irrelevant imo. Nox was swatting Thanaton's lightning aside with the back of her hand. His full lightning storm did nothing to her. Thanaton's lightning is arguably better than Dooku's. Which indicates to me how far above Dooku's Nox's lightning would be, because surely it is vastly greater than Thanaton's. She'd thoroughly overpower him in a lightning battle.
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As I've stated in other threads, Nox is an incredibly gifted swordsman. People always wank the shit out of Ulic holding off Sylvar when talking about him whereas Nox actually beat a Sith Lord in a duel with barely a sliver of force power. With her full power she'd be a far more potent fighter and with her ghost amps she'd be even more potent, on top of the added experience of like 3 extra years of training and fighting (she beat Fatso with only a few months of training). And she has her force abilities to fall back upon as Vixas pointed out, as when she stopped Thanaton's saber with the Force.
Thanaton's lightning has been established in previous threads. Our old buddy Legend did quite the championing for the guy. He's very comparable to Dooku and we saw how that went. And I'd say it's perfectly logical to assume Nox's lightning abilities are similar or greater than her deflection capabilities considering it's her favored Force Power. And I see nothing wrong with pointing out that even if by some miracle Dooku manages to overpower Nox in lightning it would do jack shit to her as Thanaton's did. Not seeing the flaw in that point.
Yes. There is no possible way that a PT character can be exaggerated, though. Dooku did shock a few zabraks and lifted some Obelisks. He's probably unmatched by anyone in TOR.
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