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Deronn Solo
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Starkiller vs Arcann

Battle takes place on a neutral ground. Force, 'Sabers, All-Out.

Loser has to an Aurbere.


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Sinious
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Arcann in a good fight imo.


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Arcann in a good fight imo.

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Originally posted by Sinious
Arcann in a good fight imo.


Arcann tanked Valkorion's lightning, Starkiller tanked Sidious' lightning.
Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.

Seems legit.

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Starkiller loses sabers, takes force and all out

Arcann can hold off his lightning (for a second at least), but he's going to get overwhelmed by his telekinesis in my opinion. Its a good fight though but once he forces SK to use his full power, its all over

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Arcann tanked Valkorion's lightning, Starkiller tanked Sidious' lightning.
Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.

Seems legit.


Galen entered into a state of Oneness and died when he tutaminus'd Sidious's lightning, that feat is hardly applicable in combat


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Galen entered into a state of Oneness and died when he tutaminus'd Sidious's lightning, that feat is hardly applicable in combat


He tanked it even before the Oneness. That happened at the very end when he "exploded".

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He tanked it even before the Oneness. That happened at the very end when he "exploded".


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He wanted to take Galen alive for a replacement for Vader, and casually dominated him/hurled a ship at him. Even in his state of oneness Galen was no match for Sidious.


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He wanted to take Galen alive for a replacement for Vader, and casually dominated him/hurled a ship at him. Even in his state of oneness Galen was no match for Sidious.


That's not canon, this is:

"You fool!" snarled the Emperor, sending another wave of Sith lightning into Kota's back. "He will never be yours."
_
Kota fell with his arms upraised, and the apprentice knew that it wasn't over yet. The moment of truth had arrived.
_
Without hesitation, he stepped between Kota and the Emperor, taking the full brunt of the Sith lightning into his own body.
_
The pain was incredible, searing every nerve back to its individual cells, skewering each of them on white-hot needles. He had never before felt anything like this. He wanted to recoil from the source, to curl into a ball and let unconsciousness take the pain away, but somehow he stayed standing, seeing the world through a crackling blue light, and even took a step toward the Emperor.
_
"Go!" he hissed at Kota. "Hurry!"
_
The general hesitated only for a moment. He, too, had seen a glimpse of the future, the apprentice remembered. He knew that it came down to a simple choice: him and the Rebels or the apprentice and darkness forever. Gathering up the Rebels, Kola ushered them toward the descending ship.
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Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight. The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.
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A squadron of stormtroopers ran into the room, led by a limping Darth Vader. They raised their blasters to gun down the Rebels as they fled up the Rogue Shadow's ramp.

"No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials. Energy surged through him. He felt as though a star had blazed to life in his chest. Driven by concern for his friends rather than himself, he embraced the Force completely, utterly, and was rewarded with strength that made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child. His nerves were on fire. Streamers of light radiated from his skin. His bones glowed like radiant lava.
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He saw rather than felt the massive shock wave that consumed a large portion of what remained of the observation dome. A glowing bubble of fire tore the stormtroopers to shreds and engulfed Vader and the Emperor. Shrapnel filled the air like dust caught in the beam of the Death Star's powerful laser.

—The Force Unleashed novel

Underlined is when the Oneness started.

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Arcann tanked Valkorion's lightning, Starkiller tanked Sidious' lightning.

So? Where does this lead us to?

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Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.

Seems legit.

Arcann cannot obliterate a single droid? You've got to be kidding me.

Relatively, much weaker Force-users can obliterate droids.

A Force-user of Arcann's caliber can destroy a large number of droids with his powers.

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Arcann isn't taking Force, but he could well take sabers.

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Arcann isn't taking Force, but he could well take sabers.


Arcann's only feat is beating the outlander, and even that he did through superior force power, not skill.

Starkiller on the other hand is stated to be trained to near perfection by Vader before TFU, getting consistently better during TFU, and being just as skilled with the saber as being powerful in the force.
The clone inhereted all of the original's fighting abillity.

As for feats: Stalemating Vader > beating the outlander through power,

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Arcann's only feat is beating the outlander, and even that he did through superior force power, not skill.

Starkiller on the other hand is stated to be trained to near perfection by Vader before TFU, getting consistently better during TFU, and being just as skilled with the saber as being powerful in the force.
The clone inhereted all of the original's fighting abillity.

As for feats: Stalemating Vader > beating the outlander through power,

If the Outlander is Hero of Tython, then he is the most skilled duelist in the galaxy.

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Deronn Solo
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I wonder why people are so sure 'Killer loses sabers....


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Saying Arcann "beat" the Outlander with the force is a disservice to the former, tbh. He ragdolled him before the fight, pushed him twice after the in-game fight, and then straight up Tiplee'd the Hero.


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Sinious
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Even when enraged, HoT was getting overwhelmed by Arcann in sabers. Since Arcann is powerful enough to stand his ground against Valkorion for a decent time, I don't see how SK will bring him down with the force.


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Hero isn't as skilled as Starkiller in sabers though, and Starkiller is more powerful in the force than Hero by a great deal. I doubt he's going to overwhelm him in sabers, he'll win by virtue of being more skilled though. But its not a stomp by any means.


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Even when enraged, HoT was getting overwhelmed by Arcann in sabers. Since Arcann is powerful enough to stand his ground against Valkorion for a decent time, I don't see how SK will bring him down with the force.

Arcann can't stand up to Valkorion. erm

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He was talking about weakened 'korion you fugger


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He also said a decent time, which was about ten seconds.

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Well the 2nd time around Arcann was blocking that shit mad long, bruh.


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