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Who could ragdoll TCW Maul?
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Who could ragdoll TCW Maul?

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*Maul can only defend himself with the force
*Maul is immobile
*Force user can only use telekinesis
*No Plagueis, Nihilus, Vitiate, Luke, Sidious, Yoda mentions
*No nexus feats or powerscaling

What Sith or Jedi could ragdoll Maul bloodlusted/morals off?


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Dooku, Vader, Caedus?


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Dooku, Vader, Caedus?

No, eh, no.


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Oh shit idk


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Krayt
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Galen.

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Vader, Krayt, Galen after a while.


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No, eh, no.
Then there isn't anyone.

Revan?


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Yeah Revan could


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Vader ragdolling isn't implausible. Dooku ragdolling, however, is.

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Vader ragdolling isn't implausible. Dooku ragdolling, however, is.


Yeah. Dooku would have a real hard time dominating Maul with the Force.

About as much as Sidious, I'd say. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Maul and Dooku are roughly equals. Vader and Maul are loosely comparable. They are not ragdolling Maul.


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I think there's misconception that if one has strong offensive force showings, naturally their telekinetic defenses must be similarly as strong. This is clearly not the case. Kenobi has comparable, if not beter showings than Maul when it comes to TK, yet Maul has Force gripped him. Dooku has done the same, albiet with greater ease and while fending off another attacker. It's not a stretch to suggest that Dooku could Ragdoll Maul.


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I wank Dooku about as hard as you can feasibly get, lol. I'm aware that he's above Maul in terms of power - above his level, in fact, but that doesn't mean he can ragdoll.

Is the OP referring to Maul being bloodlusted or whoever's trying to ragdoll him?

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I'm not questioning wether Dooku is leaps and bounds ahead of Maul in raw potency, but rather the entire philosophy that someone has to vastly more powerful in the force than their opponent, to 'ragdoll' said opponent. Clearly that's not always the case.


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Depends. Is what Maul has done to Kenobi in the past considered ragdolling?

Or the way Ventress choked Kenobi and Skywalker in Nightsisters?

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Maul has landed two legitimate hits on Kenobi.

The first was a Force choke in the comics, the second was a Force grip when the Jedi master engaged both Maul and his brother on Florum. The first could easily be influenced by some massive surge of anger... as we do know that even Maul can press Sidious in such an extreme state. The second was where Kenobi was obviously fighting to the best of his offensive ability - and perhaps not paying much mind to his Force shield, but even then, Maul could not suspend him mid-air for more then a couple of seconds.


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I don't think power is really the only necessary thing to consider when it comes to "ragdolling" either. Opportunity, speed, and surprise are other elements that have a crucial impact; Vader and Dooku could very well ragdoll Maul, if the circumstances were right. The only people that could shatter his defenses at any time are probably the top tiers, though.


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That's fair. If Dooku's bloodlusted here, I could see him breaking Maul's Force defenses.

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