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Darth Caedus vs Arcann
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Ursumeles
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Darth Caedus vs Arcann

Let's see how much the Prince has fallen. Is he now below the prince of the Eternal Empire?

Rules
* Arcann as of KoftFE
* Caedus as of LotF
* Fight takes place on board of the Invisible Hand
* In character, but serious
* Starting distance: 13m

1. Sabers

2. Force

3. All-Out


Who wins, and why?


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The Ellimist
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Arcann dies like his father.


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Arcann died too young. sad


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Ursumeles
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Arcann dies like his father.

yes


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Either way.


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Ursumeles
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How is 'Sabers only either way, lal


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Deronn Solo
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I'm not overly impressed by Caedus inconsistent 'saber feats, honestly.

Sure he gave an injured Luke pause, but he has also jostled with the likes of Mara Jade, Aura Sing, and random Mado's. His showings vs Jaina is impressive, but what has she done worth of note that puts her above army busting on a powerful DS nexus before, logically, becoming substantially more powerful?


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LemmeŽ make an case.
Wait shortly. Or a bit longer. Dunno, lol.


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Take your time. xD

I'm still working on replaying to another thread here.


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Aren't you the guy who wanted to take up Caedus wank?


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Deronn Solo
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I debate for fun here, even I don't know what my actual views are anymore, lal.

Regardless, I do believe Caedus is a bit overrated by some.


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Originally posted by Deronn_solo

Regardless, I do believe Caedus is a bit overrated by some.

-Me
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-Ellimist
..and...who again?


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Either way in all, sabers is closest. Leaning Arcann in all-out, I don't see Caedus overpowering Arcann with anything.


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So, firstly the inconsistency:
This is Author-based, mainly. In Darth Plagueis Plagueis had problems with a group of Assasins. Granted, he was caught off-guard, but shouldnŽt the most powerful Sith up to this Time stomp them, even while heavily injured? Lol. Luceno writes this way, and the Lotf authors just write shit.
Luke had problems with, like, every fodder in post-RotJ History, lol. Is he now Arcann-level too?
Also, wasnŽt Arcann beaten by 20 Skytroopers? Caedus has beaten an army-buster smile smile smile
Nah, seriously, I do agree trhat it is hard to rank Caedus, thanks to his inconcistency, but his high showings are at least as common as his low showings.

I donŽt will talk about his fight against Luke, as I must read it again.

To his fight with Mara:

Firstly, she used the enviroment heavily to her advantadge, and had prep:
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She thought she'd ditched to get him where she could use her fighting skills to better advantage. It was a matter of who found who first. I can stop this anytime I want.

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Fine. If I get him in a confined space, he can't use all his Force skills, but I can make the most of what I've got. She decided to make her way into the maze of buried passages and get Jacen to follow her.

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From here, the vaulted ceiling became lower, and even Mara had to run at a crouch. It wasn't the place to swing a standard lightsaber. The tunnels were in poor condition, and the brick arches were starting to sag and collapse in places.


And then, she cheapshotted him, injuring him badly:
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His right knee exploded with blinding pain as Mara cannoned out horizontally, Force-assisted, from a side conduit and caught his leg on the joint with her boots, ripping the tendons. As he lost his footing in the narrow passage, screaming, he found himself wedged for a second and groping for support. He lashed out with his lightsaber, shaving powdery brick from the wall. Mara dropped to the muddy floor to dodge the lightsaber, then sprang up and sprinted away down the tunnel.
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The rumbling began. She brought down both sections of tunnel, before and behind, with a massive exertion in the Force that made her breathless. She didn't hear him call out. Even in the damp conditions, clouds of fine debris filled the air and made her choke. Mara waited, one hand over her mouth and nose, shoto drawn, and listened in the Force. There was whimpering and the chunk-chunk sound of the last falling bricks. She didn't expect that weight of debris from a low ceiling to cause impact injury, but to engulf and immobilize him. He wouldn't be dead-yet.

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But he was hurt, and badly.

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He couldn't draw the weapons he needed. He was losing blood, losing strength, waning, flailing his lightsaber to fend her off. It was almost useless in such a close-quarters struggle. Mara, manic and panting, flicked the shoto to counter every desperate stabbing thrust.

But after all, this isnŽt the most impressive feat of Caedus- his fight against the Strike Team is.

I donŽt must tell you KyleŽs feats, do I? Lol. No I must just say you, why it is so impressive, that Caedus has beaten him.

Caedus was distracted in this fight:
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Katarn advanced, lightsaber at the ready. Caedus withdrew before him. With part of his awareness, he was keeping track of the four inbound vehicles, plotting their trajectories. . .

Also this shows imo his lack of focus, as every non-force sensitive-fuqq can dodge blaster fire, lol.
IIRC, he was also injured from his fight with Luke. IŽll search quotes.

He easily dominated Katarn(and the rest of the Strike Team- Valin himself is very impressive), sometimes with one hand, or he just dodged it.
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He sensed Katarn's attack, threw up his blade in a block so well practiced that his muscle memory could have performed it while he slept. With his free hand, he gestured at the Bothan Jedi. She was suddenly airborne, hurtling sideways to slam into the Falleen, knocking them both down.

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Katarn's blade struck his, rebounded with a snap-hiss. and came around from the other side as the Jedi Master executed a lightning-fast spin. Caedus stepped back from it, not engaging the blade. He watched the blade flash harmlessly past him. He stepped forward again into a side kick, aimed not at Katarn but at the onrushing Valin Horn. His boot heel caught the Jedi Knight on the point of his chin, knocking Horn backward off his feet. Two seconds had passed since the attack began.

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I actually wanted to make an longer post, but I just had an one-second nap, so It probably wouldnŽt be smart. LOL.


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quote:
Originally posted by me
IIRC, he was injured from his fight wqith Luke. IŽll search quotes.

Found it:
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He wasn't yet recovered from his duel with Luke.

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Caedus was loosing to Katarn's strike team in pure sabers. And it was a featess team other than it's leader.


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Caedus.


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Arcann


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Caedus was loosing to Katarn's strike team in pure sabers. And it was a featess team other than it's leader.


In spite of this, he probably does beat Arcann.


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Caedus.


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