KMC Forums

 
  REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Already a member? Log-in!
 
 
Home » Star Wars » Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe » Star Wars Versus Forum » Can Nomi Sunrider Force Sever the Sith Emperor?


Who would win?
You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
Nomi 4 28.57%
Vitiate 10 71.43%
Total: 14 votes 100%
  [Edit Poll (moderators only)]

Can Nomi Sunrider Force Sever the Sith Emperor?
Started by: Geistalt

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (3): [1] 2 3 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Geistalt
SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

Registered: Oct 2016
Location: True Happiness


 

Can Nomi Sunrider Force Sever the Sith Emperor?

Who wins?

Who dies?

Round 1: Nomi all by herself.

Round 2: Nomi w/Sylvar.


__________________
Rebel by doing what gives you peace.

Fvck Islam. 4srs.
Fvck Oded Yinon, too.

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 12:30 PM
Click here to Send Geistalt a Private Message Find more posts by Geistalt Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Geistalt
SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

Registered: Oct 2016
Location: True Happiness


 

Round 3: Nomi with Sylvar and Vodo-Siosk Baas.


__________________
Rebel by doing what gives you peace.

Fvck Islam. 4srs.
Fvck Oded Yinon, too.

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 12:34 PM
Click here to Send Geistalt a Private Message Find more posts by Geistalt Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Azronger
Azronger Reborn

Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites


 

Nomi severed Ulic who's > novel Vitiate. Yes she can smile


__________________

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 12:47 PM
Click here to Send Azronger a Private Message Find more posts by Azronger Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
TheMuser
Senior Member

Registered: Aug 2016
Location: Indiana


 

Your logic is broken Az

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 02:05 PM
Click here to Send TheMuser a Private Message Find more posts by TheMuser Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Geistalt
SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

Registered: Oct 2016
Location: True Happiness


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
General rule of thumb: Az is always wrong. thumb up


__________________
Rebel by doing what gives you peace.

Fvck Islam. 4srs.
Fvck Oded Yinon, too.

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 02:06 PM
Click here to Send Geistalt a Private Message Find more posts by Geistalt Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Emperordmb
LSDMB

Registered: Mar 2014
Location: The Proud Nation of Kekistan


 

General rule of thumb. If you constantly make shitty troll threads, you are not going to be taken seriously.


__________________

Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
THE MOTTO IS "IN KEK WE TRUST"

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 03:19 PM
Click here to Send Emperordmb a Private Message Find more posts by Emperordmb Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Geistalt
SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

Registered: Oct 2016
Location: True Happiness


 

Worth it.

And it hardly qualifies as a troll thread when some people actually take it quite seriously.


__________________
Rebel by doing what gives you peace.

Fvck Islam. 4srs.
Fvck Oded Yinon, too.

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 03:33 PM
Click here to Send Geistalt a Private Message Find more posts by Geistalt Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Azronger
Azronger Reborn

Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by TheMuser
Your logic is broken Az


How so? smile


__________________

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 03:53 PM
Click here to Send Azronger a Private Message Find more posts by Azronger Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
S_W_LeGenD
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2006
Location: EARTH


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Azronger
Nomi severed Ulic who's > novel Vitiate. Yes she can smile

Next, you will find a quote in a 15 year old source that may have promoted Naga Sadow as the most powerful Sith in the galaxy and you will be taking it as gospel. roll eyes (sarcastic)

People tend to move forward but you are going backward.

Ever since the Emperor was introduced and promoted as the most powerful Force-user in the lore, earlier promotions of Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma are suspect. TOR sources acknowledge Kun's great strength and Ulic as his peer but they do not affirm that these two guys were stronger than the Emperor at any point because it won't make any sense. TOR sources acknowledged Naga Sadow as one of the most powerful Sith in history FYI. Point is that TOR sources do not exclude any notable character from re-evaluation but are consistent in promoting the superiority of the Emperor over the others.

Emperor - as of Revan - is promoted as an almost godlike avatar of the Dark Side with feats of dismissing an entire Dark Council in a confrontation with Sith Sorcery, corrupting the environment of Dromund Kaas with Sith Sorcery (a planetary-scale showing), stated to be two powerful for even the duo of Revan and Alek to tackle, and overwhelming the most powerful Jedi in history [Revan in his prime] with sheer raw power in a confrontation.

Ulic has nothing on Vitiate. Stalemating a pre-prime Kun is not enough.

Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Mar 17th, 2017 at 05:31 PM

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 05:19 PM
Click here to Send S_W_LeGenD a Private Message Find more posts by S_W_LeGenD Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Azronger
Azronger Reborn

Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites


 

'Kay. Now do you actually have something worthwhile that would prove novel Vitiate's superiority to Kun or Ulic? By "worthwhile" I mean something that doesn't rely on unquantifiable hyperbole, or that appeals to ignorance with a primitive feats-only mentality?


__________________

Old Post Mar 17th, 2017 10:24 PM
Click here to Send Azronger a Private Message Find more posts by Azronger Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
S_W_LeGenD
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2006
Location: EARTH


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Azronger
'Kay. Now do you actually have something worthwhile that would prove novel Vitiate's superiority to Kun or Ulic? By "worthwhile" I mean something that doesn't rely on unquantifiable hyperbole, or that appeals to ignorance with a primitive feats-only mentality?

Revan (Reborn) >> Nomi Sunrider who severed Ulic Qel-Droma's connection with the Force.

And Vitiate (Nov) >> Revan (Reborn)

Quantifiable enough for you?

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 05:32 AM
Click here to Send S_W_LeGenD a Private Message Find more posts by S_W_LeGenD Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Azronger
Azronger Reborn

Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan (Reborn) >> Nomi Sunrider who severed Ulic Qel-Droma's connection with the Force.

And Vitiate (Nov) >> Revan (Reborn)

Quantifiable enough for you?


Completely baseless claims, lmao. laughing out loud


__________________

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 09:28 AM
Click here to Send Azronger a Private Message Find more posts by Azronger Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
S_W_LeGenD
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2006
Location: EARTH


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Azronger
Completely baseless claims, lmao. laughing out loud

Revan: confirmed as the Jedi Order's most powerful champion in the novel. His command of the Force outstrip's that of Darth Nihilus as well.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Revan humbles Nomi Sunrider in a confrontation.

Vitiate: confirmed as Revan's superior in the novel and another source. Revan himself wasn't sure if he could handle Vitiate on his own.

Not sure if you are trolling or serious.

Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Mar 18th, 2017 at 04:03 PM

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 03:56 PM
Click here to Send S_W_LeGenD a Private Message Find more posts by S_W_LeGenD Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
MythLord
Diamond

Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Homeworld


 

1. That makes Revan better than Jedi!Kun and Ulic; they still had pretty substantial power-growth's afterwards. His control of the Force being > Nihilus doesn't mean he himself possesses more power than Nihilus.

2. Good; Vitiate is > Revan, but that doesn't change that Exar Kun is canonically better. thumb up


__________________

"Hello, Starlight."

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 04:03 PM
Click here to Send MythLord a Private Message Find more posts by MythLord Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
S_W_LeGenD
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2006
Location: EARTH


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by MythLord
1. That makes Revan better than Jedi!Kun and Ulic; they still had pretty substantial power-growth's afterwards. His control of the Force being > Nihilus doesn't mean he himself possesses more power than Nihilus.

Sure.

But Revan was that strong as of Battle of Malachor V.

Revan (Reborn) is a major leap from that point in time. No wonder he one-shotted a member of the Dark Council who had humbled the duo of Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik earlier.

And Revan's superior control isn't detached from his raw power. If anything, it enables him to make more effective use of his raw power than others.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by MythLord
2. Good; Vitiate is > Revan, but that doesn't change that Exar Kun is canonically better. thumb up

We have a good reason to suspect that promotion because the relevant source doesn't acknowledges existence of Vitiate.

TOR sources recognize Kun's great strength but do not affirm his superority over Vitiate at any point. They do reveal that ancient Sith considered Kun a legitimate Sith.

Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Mar 18th, 2017 at 04:17 PM

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 04:11 PM
Click here to Send S_W_LeGenD a Private Message Find more posts by S_W_LeGenD Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Beniboybling
Worst Member

Registered: Jul 2014
Location: United Kingdom


 

It doesn't make Revan shit lol, Kun, Ulic & (probably) Nomi were all dead by that point. laughing out loud


__________________

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 04:11 PM
Click here to Send Beniboybling a Private Message Find more posts by Beniboybling Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
S_W_LeGenD
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2006
Location: EARTH


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Beniboybling
It doesn't make Revan shit lol, Kun, Ulic & (probably) Nomi were all dead by that point. laughing out loud

That accolade is not era-specific.

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 04:17 PM
Click here to Send S_W_LeGenD a Private Message Find more posts by S_W_LeGenD Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Beniboybling
Worst Member

Registered: Jul 2014
Location: United Kingdom


 

Aside from its stated contexts being the Mandalorian Wars. erm


__________________

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 04:23 PM
Click here to Send Beniboybling a Private Message Find more posts by Beniboybling Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Azronger
Azronger Reborn

Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites


 

Revan is better than Jedi Ulic and Kun. That's it. Trying to twist it so that it applies to prime versions would assume they all grew equally, which is an unproven notion. Kun > Ulic > Vitiate > Revan, as per canonical sources. Fact.


__________________

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 04:43 PM
Click here to Send Azronger a Private Message Find more posts by Azronger Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Geistalt
SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

Registered: Oct 2016
Location: True Happiness


 

Okay...

Who says those 50 years were negligible?

Just how much stronger were Exar and Ulic?


__________________
Rebel by doing what gives you peace.

Fvck Islam. 4srs.
Fvck Oded Yinon, too.

Old Post Mar 18th, 2017 05:13 PM
Click here to Send Geistalt a Private Message Find more posts by Geistalt Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 08:50 PM.
Pages (3): [1] 2 3 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< Contact Us - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Forum powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.