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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Tyth vs Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma

Fight takes place on Iokath.


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Tyth. Better feats, George Lucas likes him more, etc.

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Tyth gets stomped lol.


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Tyth murders them.

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Originally posted by Azronger
Tyth gets stomped lol.


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Kun and Qel-Droma can each resist the power of the Dark Reaper, which is capable of draining thousands of individuals at once, or rather, draining entire armies (which can be up to hundreds of thousands or even millions of troops). And even as a Jedi, Ulic was capable of forging Force Barriers that could repel blasts from Basilisk War Droids, which can damage capital ships. Ulic's known to grow tremendously in power upon becoming a Sith and Kun is his better.

I'm not fully aware of the circumstances of Tyth's showings but from the feats listed in the other thread, I don't believe there's anything hilariously beyond Kun or Ulic's paygrade here. And there remains to be seen the degree to which Tyth's powers are effective in combat.

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Kun blows his head off with a Force blast while Ulic offers moral support.


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Originally posted by Azronger
Tyth gets stomped lol.


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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Going with Tyth. Not only are there the feats we see in WoI, but there's also:

"Power levels are off the charts, and it's rising by the second. Incredible." -Lana

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"According to my scans, it's more powerful than anything we ever encountered."

"More powerful than the Eternal Throne?"

"Quite possibly. If the Republic or Empire claim it, they would usurp the Eternal Alliance as the most dominant power in the galaxy." - Lana and the Outlander

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"According to this data, it was tested on four different planets before Iokath. All successful. Over ten trillion lives, gone." -Theron


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Tyth vaporizes them.

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Going with Tyth. Not only are there the feats we see in WoI, but there's also:

"Power levels are off the charts, and it's rising by the second. Incredible." -Lana

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"According to my scans, it's more powerful than anything we ever encountered."

"More powerful than the Eternal Throne?"

"Quite possibly. If the Republic or Empire claim it, they would usurp the Eternal Alliance as the most dominant power in the galaxy." - Lana and the Outlander

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"According to this data, it was tested on four different planets before Iokath. All successful. Over ten trillion lives, gone." -Theron


None of that is referring to Tyth though, all the Gods of Iokath existed in the Superweapon facility. They as a collective have 'power levels off the charts'. Not to mention the plethora of other generators and machines in the weapon. Lana and Theron didn't have specific data, they were referring to the complex as a whole, which contains an army of hyper-advanced droids, obviously it'd be pretty ****ing impressive.

I don't see how any of that even remotely aids the argument that Tyth could take Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma. This entire facility is brought down by a strike team of Alliance operatives, they're not ****ing galaxy busters.

In fact, quote that the civilisations Tyth faced were advanced enough to have proper weaponry and force user training? IG-88 could quite happily destroy planets, doesn't mean he'd beat Kun lmao.


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Kun and Qel-Droma can each resist the power of the Dark Reaper, which is capable of draining thousands of individuals at once, or rather, draining entire armies (which can be up to hundreds of thousands or even millions of troops). And even as a Jedi, Ulic was capable of forging Force Barriers that could repel blasts from Basilisk War Droids, which can damage capital ships. Ulic's known to grow tremendously in power upon becoming a Sith and Kun is his better.

That is an absurd comparison. Force Drain powers and countermeasures against them, are irrelevant in this discussion.

Tyth will fire beams of energy and stuff like that.

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I'm not fully aware of the circumstances of Tyth's showings but from the feats listed in the other thread, I don't believe there's anything hilariously beyond Kun or Ulic's paygrade here.

Tyth shits on both Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma in conventional showings.

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And there remains to be seen the degree to which Tyth's powers are effective in combat.

Tyth disintegrated a capital ship with a single shot and you want further evidence of his effectiveness in single combat? confused

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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Originally posted by Selenial
None of that is referring to Tyth though, all the Gods of Iokath existed in the Superweapon facility. They as a collective have 'power levels off the charts'. Not to mention the plethora of other generators and machines in the weapon. Lana and Theron didn't have specific data, they were referring to the complex as a whole, which contains an army of hyper-advanced droids, obviously it'd be pretty ****ing impressive.

I don't see how any of that even remotely aids the argument that Tyth could take Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma. This entire facility is brought down by a strike team of Alliance operatives, they're not ****ing galaxy busters.

In fact, quote that the civilisations Tyth faced were advanced enough to have proper weaponry and force user training? IG-88 could quite happily destroy planets, doesn't mean he'd beat Kun lmao.


Except Theron clearly asks:

"What would the republic and empire want with this one superweapon?" To which Lana replies:

"According to my scans, it's more powerful than anything we've ever encountered." Including arguably the Eternal Throne itself, which commands the entirety of a fleet that solo'd the Empire and Republic and took over the galaxy. thumb up

Whether the quotes refer to Tyth alone or the Six Gods, I'm unsure, but given that the codex refers to the gods as superweaponS, and that the operative terms are it, it's, and "a superweapon" (singular), it could very well be referring to just Tyth. But even if it's referring to all six of the gods, it's still enough for me to put Tyth alone above Kun and Droma.

Tyth getting beaten by the Outlander and 7 other unknown force users/peeps doesn't preclude Tyth being above Kun and Droma. Tyth was clearly above the Outlander individually, who I'd argue is above Droma and at least approaches Kun.


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In fact, quote that the civilisations Tyth faced were advanced enough to have proper weaponry and force user training? IG-88 could quite happily destroy planets, doesn't mean he'd beat Kun lmao.

Are you serious?

Iokath

To call Iokath a planet is technically incorrect, and an insult to the brilliant design of the artificial world. A massive sphere constructed around--and fully enveloping--an undersized and unremarkable star, Iokath absorbs all of the energy released by its "sun," maximizing solar efficiency.

All the orbital bodies in the system--every planet, moon, and asteroid--were demolished and salvaged for core elements to create this technological marvel. The salvage was processed and repurposed to create a self-sustaining ecosphere that could be altered and expanded to meet the ever-changing needs of the builders and their society. The self-contained nature of Iokath allows for complete control and customization of every aspect of the environment--a theoretically perfect world.

With the system's star hidden by the surrounding sphere, Iokath is undetectable from a distance, and its impenetrable exterior defenses make it virtually unassailable. Combined with the technological superiority of the builders, it was impervious to any outside threat... but Iokath couldn't protect itself from enemies within.


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Kindly pinpoint a civilization that have accomplishments like that besides Celestials. I think Celestials had serious competition.

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IG-88 cannot end a civilization on its own. Ridiculous point.

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That is an absurd comparison. Force Drain powers and countermeasures against them, are irrelevant in this discussion.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
"According to my scans, it's more powerful than anything we've ever encountered." Including arguably the Eternal Throne itself, which commands the entirety of a fleet that solo'd the Empire and Republic and took over the galaxy. thumb up


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: And Valkorion.

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Indeed.


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"According to my scans, it's more powerful than anything we've ever encountered." Including arguably the Eternal Throne itself, which commands the entirety of a fleet that solo'd the Empire and Republic and took over the galaxy. thumb up

Jesus Christ.

You've got to be kidding me? ninja

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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Yup. Makes sense, given that (according to Ant):

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Actually, it was the entire Eternal Fleet. The cutscene doesn't visibly show it, but the Hero orders his entire fleet to Iokath, and then later orders them to fire on Tyth.

Tyth surviving bombardment from the largest fleet in history to that time is ****ing insane.


Though the EF rendered Tyth temporarily out of commission, its kind of the entire ****ing fleet.


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Yup. Makes sense, given that (according to Ant):



Though the EF rendered Tyth temporarily out of commission, its kind of the entire ****ing fleet.

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