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Darth Maul vs Darth Malgus
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Darth Maul vs Darth Malgus
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Darth Maul vs Darth Malgus

So it seems the popular opinion is that Maul would win a sabers only fight *see my other thread*, but who would win an all out fight between these two?

*http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t646615.html

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Maul, decisively


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Hmm.

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Originally posted by Azronger
Maul, decisively

How so?

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Malgus appears to have a better incorporation of the force within combat scenarios whereas Maul refrains from doing so.


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Originally posted by Rebel95
How so?


ILS has made a very solid case here (it's originally Arcann vs Maul but shifts into Malgus vs Maul):

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...1759741/?page=2


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Malgus appears to have a better incorporation of the force within combat scenarios whereas Maul refrains from doing so.
Not really, Maul uses it just as much as Malgus. He casually choked out Obi-Wan Kenobi and incapacitated him, a feat I haven't seen Malgus match in magnitude, for the record.


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Not really, Maul uses it just as much as Malgus. He casually choked out Obi-Wan Kenobi and incapacitated him, a feat I haven't seen Malgus match in magnitude, for the record.
I meant to say within combat sequences. Maul typically avoids landing force pushes in mid-combat.


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I meant to say within combat sequences. Maul typically avoids landing force pushes in mid-combat.
Based on what? I can think of plenty of times he's done so, legends or canon. Is there any proof, any quote, saying he "avoids" using TK?


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Assuming SOD Maul.

Maul's is portrayed as more powerful than TCW Kenobi who less than a year post AOTC could simultaneously deadlift and cloak freighters and who 5 years post TPM could do the heavy lifting pulling an airship across the sky.

And that's not even considering growth during season 6 and then SOD.

I doubt Malgus is powerful enough to dismiss Maul with telekenesis and Maul's durability should negate whatever damage Malgus manages to do with pushes or the like.

That leaves us with a duel where Maul's status as a tier 8, one of thebest swords men in history, and his feats which include handling one of the best duelists in history and one of the best jedi of the era simultaneously while pre-prime all mark Maul as the more impressive combatant.

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Maul's is portrayed as more powerful than TCW Kenobi who less than a year post AOTC could simultaneously deadlift and cloak freighters and who 5 years post TPM could do the heavy lifting pulling an airship across the sky.

You need to provide evidence of these showings. And what was the mass of these freighters?

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I doubt Malgus is powerful enough to dismiss Maul with telekenesis

FYI:

Malgus bounced up from the somersault and loosed a telekinetic blast that lifted Aryn from her feet and blew her across the hangar.

Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Deceived

- Aryn Leener who sent much of a Tram crashing into her enemies like missiles. Do you understand what a Tram is?

Here is an example:



And this is a single car.

Now visualize 6 cars like that.

More importantly, Darth Malgus continued to grow in power since.

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and Maul's durability should negate whatever damage Malgus manages to do with pushes or the like.

Not a convincing argument.

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That leaves us with a duel where Maul's status as a tier 8, one of thebest swords men in history, and his feats which include handling one of the best duelists in history and one of the best jedi of the era simultaneously while pre-prime all mark Maul as the more impressive combatant.

So?

Darth Malgus could be a TIER 9 swordsman. He overwhelmed an extraordinarily skilled Jedi battlemaster centuries before his prime. Even Palpatine regarded him as a warrior without equal.

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Darth Malgus could be a TIER 9 swordsman. He killed an immensely skilled Jedi battlemaster centuries before his prime. Palpatine regarded him as a warrior without equal.


He never said that. He did say though that Darths Maul and Vader are the most skilled Sith duelists ever, explicitly contradicting Malgus' accolade (which, btw, doesn't exist).


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Even Palpatine regarded him as a warrior without equal.

So Malgus in on par with Anoon Bondara?

Impressive thumb up

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Originally posted by Azronger
He never said that. He did say though that Darths Maul and Vader are the most skilled Sith duelists ever, explicitly contradicting Malgus' accolade (which, btw, doesn't exist).

It depends when Palpatine learned about Darth Malgus.

And;

Malgus submitted utterly to the dark side, and doing so made him an exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have never been duplicated.

Taken from Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side

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So Malgus in on par with Anoon Bondara?

Impressive thumb up

Darth Malgus defeated a stronger opponent centuries before his prime.

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I skimmed through this thread: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...1759741/?page=4

Noticed plenty of erroneous assumptions on the part of members who are defending Darth Maul in that contest. One of them doesn't even know what an in-universe source constitutes for a work of fiction. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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[/Color] His battlefield feats have never been duplicated.[/I]

Taken from Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side


Which are...what exactly? This is kinda vague as hell.


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It depends when Palpatine learned about Darth Malgus.

And;

Malgus submitted utterly to the dark side, and doing so made him an exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have never been duplicated.

Taken from Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side


He complied the Book of the Sith around 19BBY, the same year he said this to Vader: "Your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Now, Lord Vader, go and bring peace to the Empire."

Still waiting on that accolade saying Malgus is a warrior without equal though.


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He complied the Book of the Sith around 19BBY, the same year he said this to Vader: "Your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Now, Lord Vader, go and bring peace to the Empire."

Still waiting on that accolade saying Malgus is a warrior without equal though.

Palpatine might have said that to encourage Darth Vader.

Posted it already.

If Darth Malgus is an exemplary warrior and his battlefield feats have never been duplicated, he is a warrior without equal.

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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Which are...what exactly? This is kinda vague as hell.

To name a few:

1. Killing a powerful Jedi Master centuries before his prime
2. Enduring the events of Hope and proceeding to kill 2 Jedi in another fight just a while later (one of them powerful enough to collapse a building)
3. Destroying a fleet of Republic starfighters with just a scream
4. Raiding and destroying Republic strongholds singlehandedly
5. Slaughtering scores of Jedi inside the Jedi Temple

Palpatine might be aware of undocumented events as well. He learned Force Maelstrom power from Darth Malgus's stuff.

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