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Darth Maul vs. Marka Ragnos.
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The Merchant
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Darth Maul vs. Marka Ragnos.

Both in their prime in the Geonosian Gladiator arena.

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Force
A out

Who wins?


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Maul


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Maul.

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Marka is beyond Maul.


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Ragnos spanks in Force and all-out.


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Re: Darth Maul vs. Marka Ragnos.

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Both in their prime in the Geonosian Gladiator arena.

Sabers
Force
A out

Who wins?


Sabers - Ragnos probably destroys Maul with casual ease, based on the fact that he is the progenitor of SW:ToR's Juggernaut class. The guy slapped his pet-terentatek into submission with his bare hands, ffs. What is Maul going to do against somebody like that?

Force - Ragnos rapes.

All out - Ragnos still rapes.


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Ragnos > Pall >/~ Muur > Krayt > Maul


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Re: Re: Darth Maul vs. Marka Ragnos.

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Sabers - Ragnos probably destroys Maul with casual ease, based on the fact that he is the progenitor of SW:ToR's Juggernaut class.

This might mean something if Maul was around when Ragnos was the progenitor of aforementioned class and Maul wasn't the progenitor of anything. As Maul came into existence in an entirely different era, this means about as much as me singing Maul's praises because he was the apprentice of the most powerful sith ord of all time.

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How do we know Ragnos>Pall?


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How do we know Ragnos>Pall?


People misinterpret certain quotes.


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Left to guard the tomb serving as the resting place for its master, Marka Ragnos, the beast has dwelled in darkness for centuries. Legend tells that Ragnos beat his pet nightly, warping it with the Force until it was a creature of pure hate and anguish.


Source: The Old Republic: Codex Entry: The Beast of Marka Ragnos

1. Marka beating his terentatek is according to "legend" - I see no reason to take a legend at face value.

2. While "beating" could well relate to a physical beating, given the size and durability of a terentatek - many times that of Ragnos himself - it makes more sense that he beat it telekinetically, or with some kind of weapon, and likely while the beast was restrained from fighting back. At least, those are options just as plausible as the assumption that Marka just walked up to this, what, 10-15 foot creature and punched it into submission? So not really much of a feat.

Regarding factual events: Maul has plenty of feats of matching strength against larger-than-life creatures, namely:

-Fighting for control with a bloodlusted varactyl while riding it, until he killed it, at which point he ripped it's massive, armoured skull off, all without apparent use of Force augmentation

-Killed both a Yuuzhan Vong gladiator and a wampa bare-handed, again, without apparent use of Force augmentation (separate occurrences)

-Tied a dragon slug around it's own tail, incapacitating it, which is impressive given how massive a dragon slug is, how powerful it's muscles must then be: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...=20130428160416

-Using one arm, while hanging from a chasm, Maul grabbed the sprayed-web of a "mammoth spider", and tugged it hard enough to rip the spider from it's perch, causing it to plummet to death

And then we have, in the recent eponymous canon comic, Maul again, matching strength with a creature many times his own size:

https://i.imgur.com/VQh1n5a.jpg

So yeah... how does it go again... emphasis mine?


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People misinterpret certain quotes.


Yes, because this is easily misinterpreted. erm

quote:
Meanwhile, on the far side of the galaxy, the Sith Empire has grown powerful through centuries of dark Force wielding and magic and the hundred-year rule of the greatest Dark Lord of the Sith, MARKA RAGNOS.
- Chronicles of the Old Republic


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Yes, because this is easily misinterpreted. erm


Tell me again, since when has "greatest" been synonymous with "most powerful"?


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When his greatness is attributed directly to his power, and unrivalled reign. erm


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Strength, power and strategy marked the rule of Marka Ragnos. Descended from the original Sith inhabitants of Korriban and the Dark Jedi exiles who interbred with them, Marka Ragnos was destined for greatness. He conquered his competitors in a series of quick, ruthless campaigns and became Dark Lord of all Sith, a title he would hold for more than a century.

The reign of Marka Ragnos might have been short-lived had he not displayed great strategic discipline. Instead of clashing directly with Sith challengers who hungered for his power, he pitted his enemies against each other to weaken and destroy them. Similarly, he was one of few Sith of his era who knew of the existence of the Republic and the Jedi Order. He chose not to attack, and instead focused on strengthening the Sith Empire.

The golden age of the Sith would end shortly after his death, but the legacy and spirit of Marka Ragnos would live on within his tomb in the Valley of the Dark Lords.


The Old Republic Codex: Tomb of Marka Ragnos


You're making things up again.


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You're being a retard again.

quote:
Meanwhile, on the far side of the galaxy, the Sith Empire has grown powerful through centuries of dark Force-wielding and magic, and the hundred-year rule of the greatest Dark Lord of the Sith, MARKA RAGNOS.
- Chronicles of the Old Republic


But I love how you use that quote, which directly refers to the beginning of his rule, and ignore his century of growth in power.


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Um, no it's referring to his whole rule, and the reason I am ignoring his power-growth is because it in no way means the quote says he is the most powerful.


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Az laying the smackdown on his/her monkey ass.


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