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*CANON* Lord Tyranus (Kurk) V. Lord Maul (Quanchi112)
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*CANON* Lord Tyranus (Kurk) V. Lord Maul (Quanchi112)

Two sh1t tier debaters prepare to grapple in the mud over the fictional characters they favor and envy the most.

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• Only canon material from the new continuity shall be used. The full list of materials can be found here:

• Outside statements from authors and directors will be considered

• Winner of the debate will be determined by public opinion

• Additional amendments can be made with the agreeance of both debaters in additional posts.

Setting:

• The two combatants meet-up in a random encounter.

• Location is on neutral ground with an acceptable amount of cover and loose objects scattered about.

• Starting distance is 25 meters

• Prime versions of both characters will be used. This is Dooku as of Revenge of the Sith and Maul as of Son of Dathomir (unless Quan would like to change that).


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SLORG ONE THIS IS GOLD LEADER


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When doeth it start?


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Canon Dooku speaking about Maul in TCW: "the great Sith Lord Darth Maul"
Canon Maul speaking about Dooku in TCW:"the Sith pretender Dooku"

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Canon Mace speaking about Canon Dooku and Canon Maul: “Maul must be Dooku’s apprentice.”

smilesmilesmile


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kill me


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by ILS
kill me
deal


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Canon Mace speaking about Dooku: "he's not a murderer"

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Originally posted by Unbowed
Canon Mace speaking about Dooku: "he's not a murderer"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrBESJxv2vY


Anyway once the fraud agrees to our terms and adds any of his own, we'll start. Of course this will be a casual debate as Quan is a pretty straight-forward guy. I almost don't want to put much effort into an actual opener as I know we're going to end up bickering over a measly detail until the end of time. While I know when to concede on certain points to focus on the bigger picture, I've never see Quan do the same, and he tends to go to the extreme to avoid doing so.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Canon Mace speaking about Canon Dooku and Canon Maul: “Maul must be Dooku’s apprentice.”

smilesmilesmile


Lol ah what a gem this is.


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I do agree to the stipulations of canon only but vehemently oppose the public opinion determining the victor. Let's just agree to the debate and find the judges after the dust settles. Do you agree my former and spiritually broken apprentice.


Ps. I also favor Snoke over Maul not that it matters but I don't want anyone thinking Maul comes anywhere near Snoke in terms of my personal preference.


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Compare their performances vs Kenobi, the debate isn't needed.

Unless off course you're willing to argue for Rebels Maul who scales off Vader...

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Compare their performances vs Kenobi, the debate isn't needed.

Unless off course you're willing to argue for Rebels Maul who scales off Vader...
Abc logic and easily dismissed. Anakin beat Dooku and lost to Kenobi therefore does that mean Kenobi beats Dooku.


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ABC Logic is the most effective line of argumentation, but as you've pointed out, context is important. Unfortunately for Maul, Dooku dealt with superior versions of Kenobi aided by backup while Maul fought inferior versions of Kenobi alone with a mix of favorable and unfavorable circumstances.

Dooku still did much better than Maul.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
ABC Logic is the most effective line of argumentation, but as you've pointed out, context is important. Unfortunately for Maul, Dooku dealt with superior versions of Kenobi aided by backup while Maul fought inferior versions of Kenobi alone with a mix of favorable and unfavorable circumstances.

Dooku still did much better than Maul.
Both men have different styles of fighting so it doesn't matter how they stack up against someone else it only matters how they match up with each other.

Maul only lost skill wise to Kenobi in rebels due to him being broken and lost IMO. As I said context always matters and abc logic isn't as important as you believe.


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i want to judge


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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
ABC Logic is the most effective line of argumentation, but as you've pointed out, context is important. Unfortunately for Maul, Dooku dealt with superior versions of Kenobi aided by backup while Maul fought inferior versions of Kenobi alone with a mix of favorable and unfavorable circumstances.

Dooku still did much better than Maul.


Dooku had considerable trouble with Savage, while Maul casually swatted a more powerful Savage away like a fly.

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Dooku had considerable trouble with Savage, while Maul casually swatted a more powerful Savage away like a fly.

Dooku had trouble with a Savage who could drive back Kenobi and Anakin, Maul swatted a Savage who was fodderized by Kenobi. If you want to argue that Maul's showing remains more impressive as it was a more powerful version of Oppress, It's fair for me to claim that Dooku's ability to fodderize TCW Kenobi proves he grew more powerful as well.


Furthermore, Dooku had to deal with Savage and Ventress. Ventress's presence directly saved Oppress on multiple occasions during their fight. If Ventress isn't present, Savage dies early on. If Ventress was interjected in Maul's bout with Oppress, than Maul wouldn't be able to defeat Oppress the way he did 1 v 1 as Ventress would simply attack him forcing Maul to let go of Oppress.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I do agree to the stipulations of canon only but vehemently oppose the public opinion determining the victor. Let's just agree to the debate and find the judges after the dust settles. Do you agree my former and spiritually broken apprentice.


Ps. I also favor Snoke over Maul not that it matters but I don't want anyone thinking Maul comes anywhere near Snoke in terms of my personal preference.
I don't see the dust settling; just a rapid descent into bickering over futile details. Picking judges is pointless as bias on both sides will cancel each other.

Anyway I'll provide an opening statement in the next few days; maybe in a couple hours.

See you then, Fraudfather.


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Dont back down this time Quan.

If you do then you might as well just stop posting on SW threads.

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