Kenobi as if ROTS during his duel with Grievous/Pre-Suit Vader.
Vader as of ROTJ.
Physicality:
Obviously this is saber's only but physicality is always a factor in a physical fight.
I made a Thread covering Kenobi's physical strength where Ant described it as monsterous, which is true. I don't see Vader breaking through Kenobi's defenses using strength if anything it'd be the other way around.
In terms of speed this is hard to gauge when looking at actual feats. Kenobi's fast and does have a speed advantage but I don't think he'd be able to overwhelm Vader immediately through Ataru/Niman although I think Vader would have difficulty defending against it. Kenobi going on the offense in this fight is unlikely anyways.
Durabilty: While Kenobi is a human tank I think we can all agree this category goes to Vader.
Endurance: Niether if them are getting tired in a fight anytime soon so I don't think this is much of a factor since by the time they do they'll more than likely be dead anyways.
Overall I'd honestly give it to Kenobi for physicality. At the very least it should be equal.
Saber's:
This is where the fun begins.
Kenobi's defenses have been able to deal with the speed of Grievous and Maul as well as the precision of Dooku. While Grievous did overload Kenobi's defenses, he never landed a hit on him, only making it where he had to chose to evade what he couldn't block.
He's also directly delt with the strength of a hindered Anakin during the battle of the heroes whereas Dooku couldn't.
Vader' use of Djem So wouldn't do much. It lacks the strength of Anakin and the speed to overwhelm Kenobi so I don't think trying to wear Obi-Wan down through a strength based offensive would do much.
Vader's incorporation of Ataru's bladework also probably also wouldn't do that much. He probably would use other Forms anyways.
Makashi would likely be ineffective because I'm pretty sure if Dooku's use couldn't penetrate Kenobi's defenses Vader wouldn't be able to either. The arguement could be made where Dooku wasn't able to and never got the chance to because he had Anakin there as well although in the ROTS novelization he gets 1v1 time with Kenobi although relatively brief. Regardless, I don't think Vader's Makashi would do that much.
Vader's Juyo would be something that could catch Kenobi off guard and surprise him however I don't think it has the speed to penetrate his defenses.
Verdict: I honestly give a saber's only fight to Kenobi.
While he'd have a hard time penetrating Vader's defenses I feel like he'd be able to hold out long enough for Vader to either get frustrated and overextend or for him to realize that he can honestly probably get through his defenses.
Kenobi's been able to bend Grievous' arm and in TCW disarm him in a direct contest of strength. I see the fight ending not with Vader being disarmed but Kenobi eventually finding an opening through his speed and (let's be real here) strength advantage.
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