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DE Luke vs. Plagueis
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Stigma
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DE Luke vs. Plagueis

Setting: Naboo plains

Starting distance: 50 feet

Who wins?

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Luke


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Galan007
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Luke, solidly.


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The Ellimist
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This would be an easy win for Luke if his post-DE pre-late-NR showings weren't so weird.


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Jaggarath
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Luke stomps or gets stomped.

No one really knows.


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Luke should win

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Luke gets stomped


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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Luke stomps or gets stomped.

No one really knows.


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NewGuy01
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Lol, going with gets stomped myself, thank you very much.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Luke stomps or gets stomped.

No one really knows.

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Freedon Nadd
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If Plagueis' ability to shutdown midi-chlorians is instant(per Azronger), then he wins.


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Luke wins Sabers at least. The DE audiobook makes it clear Luke defeated Palps on his own during the duel and Leia only joined during the Force Storm.


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Sabers - Luke
Force - Plagueis

All Out - Luke

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Originally posted by The Merchant
Luke wins Sabers at least. The DE audiobook makes it clear Luke defeated Palps on his own during the duel and Leia only joined during the Force Storm.
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In the audiobook Leia also states that Luke and Palpatine were moving so fast that she could "hardly see them". Mind you, this was a Leia who, moments later, ran fast enough to escape the Eclipse's destruction by Palpatine's rampant Force Storm -- and given the flagship's sheer vastness, the implications of that are pretty staggering, tbh(ie. that she not only covered kilometers in seconds, but also that there was enough spare time to prep/launch their escape shuttle before the ship was obliterated.) But I digress...

And it's no secret, but the DE Handbook also confirms that Palpatine was "more powerful than ever" at the time. So yeah... /shrug


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She didn't use Force speed there, you know...
It's just like the Flash. If he doesn't use his powers: He cannot perceive Professor Zoom when speeding around.


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And it's no secret, but the DE Handbook also confirms that Palpatine was "more powerful than ever" at the time. So yeah... /shrug


The Eclipse was a Dark Side nexus, so... But it's impressive for both Luke and Leia.


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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
She didn't use Force speed there, you know...
I'm merely saying that Leia obviously had access to *some* level of enhanced perceptions/reactions, yet outright stated that she could not perceive their battle at all. All she could do is sense what was happening via the ebb and flow of the light and dark sides of the force around her. Is it a testament to Luke and Palpatine's speed? I think so, but you're welcome to disagree.

Regardless, the primary thing to take away is that the audiobook confirmed Luke bested Palpatine there, without Leia 'amping' him in any way.

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The Eclipse was a Dark Side nexus, so...
Given that said battle took place ON the Eclipse, I'm not sure why you even felt the need to mention this..? Does it make what I said any less accurate..?


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Originally posted by Galan007
I'm merely saying that Leia obviously had access to *some* level of enhanced perceptions/reactions, yet outright stated that she could not perceive their battle at all. All she could do is sense what was happening via the ebb and flow of the light and dark sides of the force around her. Is it a testament to Luke and Palpatine's speed? I think so, but you're welcome to disagree.

Regardless, the thing to take away is that the audiobook confirmed that Luke bested Palpatine there, without Leia 'amping' him in any way.

Given that said battle took place ON the Eclipse, I'm not sure why you even felt the need to mention this..? Does it make what I said any less accurate..?


1. But she wasn't using Force speed. That's the power which allows one to move at fast speeds and see everything moving 'slower'
2. Well, it's a Dark Side focal. So it amplified Sidious' Force connection and hindered Luke and Leia's.


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Galan007
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1. But she wasn't using Force speed. That's the power which allows one to move at fast speeds and see everything moving 'slower'
Linear running isn't the only time a force-user's perception/reaction capacities can become heightened, lol. But again, you're welcome to disagree -- doesn't change the end result, nor is it something I care to debate with you beyond this.

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2. Well, it's a Dark Side focal. So it amplified Sidious' Force connection and hindered Luke and Leia's.
And this changes anything I said... How?

Why do you insist in popping-into nearly every thread and arguing for the sake of arguing?


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