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KF Vader runs the Sidious feats gauntlet
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Valkorion
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KF Vader runs the Sidious feats gauntlet

which of these feats can he do

you can look at them separately, not really ordered

the longer term feats must be done at his current power level

1. Ragdolling and toying with Mace and Oppress using a fraction of his power

2. Solo'ing the B-team within seconds while fighting Mace

3. Overpowering Mace Windu and nearly overwhelming Yoda with Force lightning

4. Unbalancing the Force so much a prophecy is needed to stop him

5. Creating lightning storms across the galaxy with his hologram

6. Shrouding the long term precog of the entire PT Jedi Order 24/7

7. TP'ing and draining tens of millions on Byss 24/7 across the galaxy with minimal effort (initial Byss feat)

8. TP'ing and draining 20 billion people on Byss 24/7 across the galaxy with minimal effort

9. Burying the Lusankya while mind wiping witnesses

10. Destroying a New Republic fleet with Force storms

11. Force choking Dooku through a hologram from across the galaxy

12. Beating Yoda


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*Maul and Opress* And I don't think he could do any of it. Maybe Tk'ing Maul and Opress. But that's it.


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Re: KF Vader runs the Sidious feats gauntlet

LMFAO

This is unironically actually an interesting thread.

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1. Ragdolling and toying with Mace and Oppress using a fraction of his power


Yes

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2. Solo'ing the B-team within seconds while fighting Mace


Not sure if his fighting style would take them out as quickly, but I could still see him disposing of them very casually.

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3. Overpowering Mace Windu and nearly overwhelming Yoda with Force lightning


I'm not so sure about that. Even if he can quickly learn Force lightning, he may not have the mastery with the technique to use it to the same potency Palpatine did. It's possible, but not clear.

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4. Unbalancing the Force so much a prophecy is needed to stop him


I don't think he would know how to do that.

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5. Creating lightning storms across the galaxy with his hologram


I wonder if that was more a passive reaction to Sidious's presence rather than a conscious effort on his part. I'm not sure if Vader would know how to do that, though he'd likely have the power to.

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6. Shrouding the long term precog of the entire PT Jedi Order 24/7


He wouldn't know how to do that, and Sidious apparently has a special talent for it.

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7. TP'ing and draining tens of millions on Byss 24/7 across the galaxy with minimal effort (initial Byss feat)


He probably wouldn't have the mastery to do it, though with some training he should have the power to..

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8. TP'ing and draining 20 billion people on Byss 24/7 across the galaxy with minimal effort


He wouldn't have the mastery and that this point Palpatine is likely outright more powerful too.

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9. Burying the Lusankya while mind wiping witnesses


This Palpatine is likely more powerful than Vader, but Vader may have the power to do the TK - not sure about the TP.

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10. Destroying a New Republic fleet with Force storms


He doesn't know how to do Force storms, though he likely has the power to.

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11. Force choking Dooku through a hologram from across the galaxy


I could actually see that tbh.

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12. Beating Yoda


If properly motivated and in the right environmental circumstances, Vader should be able to win.


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I mean I wonder how many of those feats Windu could pull off? The same Windu who overpowered Palpatine in a Saber fight.

No ones claiming Anakin has Palpatines Force Mastery, or even necessarily his speed. Just that he likely has the raw power and Saber skill to fight on par with him in a Saber fight. Much like Mace.

Except Mace has better mastery than Ani, but not as much raw power.

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Sidious wins regardless of Anakin's mindset and Force abilities. But you are having a hard time in understanding the context of Sidious' performances.

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Elaborate?

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Ellimist is 100% right.

But about Knightfall Vader taking so long to kill Cin Drallig and however many Padawans he fought with: the novel takes priority over the movie, so he absolutely would be able to solo the B-team with as much ease as Sidious.


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Originally posted by Meatpants
Elaborate?


It has been done too many times over. Check Nai. He has covered these things long before my arrival on KMC Forum.


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Re: KF Vader runs the Sidious feats gauntlet

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Casually defeating Maul and Savage

Anakin could do it.

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Downing the B-team within seconds

Anakin could do it.

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Overpowering Mace Windu and nearly overwhelming Yoda with FL

Anakin couldn't do it. He doesn't even know how to use FL.

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Unbalancing the Force / Shrouding the Jedi's sight

Anakin couldn't do it.

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TP'ing and draining 20 billion people on Byss

Anakin might be able to do it, actually, given the same amount of time and resources that Palpatine had.

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Burying the Lusankya while mind wiping witnesses

Anakin couldn't do it.

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Destroying a New Republic fleet with Force storms

Anakin couldn't do it. Neither could RotS Sidious.

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Force choking Dooku through a hologram from across the galaxy

Anakin could do it.

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Beating Yoda

Anakin could do it.


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Valkorion
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Originally posted by Geistalt
Ellimist is 100% right.

But about Knightfall Vader taking so long to kill Cin Drallig and however many Padawans he fought with: the novel takes priority over the movie, so he absolutely would be able to solo the B-team with as much ease as Sidious.


he fought cin drallig and we don't even see him win, and he choked a padawan


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Many of these require powers that Anakin doesn't even have access to during KF...

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quote:
the novel takes priority over the movie

confused

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Lucas disagrees if you follow his canon.


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Originally posted by NewGuy01
Anakin could do it.


Anakin could do it.


Anakin couldn't do it. He doesn't even know how to use FL.


Anakin couldn't do it.


Anakin might be able to do it, actually, given the same amount of time and resources that Palpatine had.


Anakin couldn't do it.


Anakin couldn't do it. Neither could RotS Sidious.


Anakin could do it.


Anakin could do it.


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