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Mace Windu vs Dooku
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Meatpants
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Mace Windu vs Dooku

Not sure what the gist here on the forum is regarding these two, interested in knowing. Consider neutral ground, both are baseline RotS incarnations.

1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All-out

Now, from a purely movie perspective, Windu > Dooku because IIRC Windu is a tier 8 that borders on being a 9, AND if you interpret the Windu vs Sidious scene as him legitimately disarming Sidious in a fair fight with no outside influences (i.e. only the movie itself), than Windu is clearly > Dooku. Introducing Legends adds a lot more content, and I'm not sure yet about my overall opinion. Thoughts?

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As of ROTS my powerscale would look like this:

Sidious = Yoda >/= Windu >/= Skywalker > Dooku.

I dont think much changes between Legends and Lucas canon there. Except that Windu earns his placement via Vapaad.

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Skywalker beating Dooku wasn't an entirely neutral fight to be fair, there was outside influence. Unless you want to argue that Anakin would eventually get angry on his own anyway.

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Darth Thor
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Been around in circles on this with Freedon and Realist already. But TCW makes it clear Skywalker was already on par with Dooku late into TCW.

And yes even the script and novel both confirm Skywalker kept getting stronger as he got madder. So all you are really arguing is Dooku =/> Base Anakin. Whilst you seem to agree Angry Anakin > Dooku.

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I basically already agreed with that, just decided to assess your line of reasoning.

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Fair enough.

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If Dooku wasn't holding back from the battle there is no telling if Anakin would've gotten the amp rage that got him the win before being put down.

Not sure if I'd rate Windu above angry Anakin either.


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Angry Anakin is basically > everyone in RotS except Sidious and Yoda.

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Windu stomps.


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If Dooku wasn't holding back from the battle there is no telling if Anakin would've gotten the amp rage that got him the win before being put down.


Except theyve fought plenty of times before. So we know Dooku wasnt going to make short work out of Skywalker or anything. And Anakin was getting stronger anyway as Dooku was getting tired.

As for the holding back, he stopped holding back and replenished his Force reserves, so that would have made little difference.


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Not sure if I'd rate Windu above angry Anakin either.



Well I did say =/>

So approx on par but with edge to Mace.

Reason being Anakins Anger would likely fuel Maces Vapaad.

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