Can the Wound in the Force defeat the All-Sith? Battle takes place on Korriban, the ancient homeworld of the Sith.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
If KotOR is still canon then Sidious should have Nihilus' power + every other Sith Lord. And if it's not, then I don't see Nihilus overpowering thousands of Sith including Sidious, Dooku, Plagueis, Bane, etc.
Sure, because lots of Legends is off of the table, and we don't know if anyone in Disneycanon can do shit about Force nom of that scale. Hell, we can assume that truly ancient Sith from the Golden Age could deal with it (why else would Ragnos and co keep Vitiate as a vassal if he was vulnerable?) but we don't know how or to what extent. This is one big unknown.
However, we can break the argument done this way:
IF Nihilus exists in Disneyverse (unverified), AND he has the same or superior powers of his Legends counterpart, AND he is presently in Nu Sheev's body helping, THEN it stands to reason Sheev can win by virtue of nullifying the Force Drain.
I'll ignore the fact that he has to contend with a Force boss who can maintain a small fleet in orbit using just his willpower and who probably TK his colon while a defense is being utilized, but whatever.
However, IF Nihilus is Legends only continuity, AND it is the case that no Disneyverse Sith Lord is capable of defending or defeating such a being (unverified), THEN it stands to reason Nu Sheev loses.
Basically, there's too many missing variables here to conclusively say either way. But all Nu Sheev has done is drain two neophytes and shock non-Force sensitive ships from his stationary position. Nihilus has consumed entire planets in the time it took to utter a word and has TK showings higher than most notable Sith. And he can fight and wipe his ass.
So I'll say Nihilus until further evidence shows up, based on actual feats and not one-trick pony powers.
Considering it's established that Nihilus requires a rare power to counter his immense hunger and drain ability, it stands to reason Sidious must verifiably have this rare power to contend.
He might.
But the evidence isn't there conclusively. So since the burden of proof for Sid fans requires said defense be verified, it's an unknown/likely loss scenario.
If that hurts your confirmation bias and status quo, maybe self educate a bit.
All this Nihilus stuff is hard to argue about, just because most of his lore hasn't been connected to that of the rest of the universe. I mean, isn't it possible there's some other way to beat his drain other than a Wound, and we just haven't seen it applied in his instance?
Force Light? Midi-Chlorians Manipulation? Force Net? Sith Alchemy? Sith Sorcery? Dark Side Tendrils? Dark Transfer? Shatterpoint? Vaapad? Those are just off the top of my head.
And even if you do need a Wound in the Force, we have an example of a sith straight-up creating one: Tenebrous' master. Stands to reason Sidious would know the technique as well.
In Canon this gets even more complicated, because wounds of the Force, as far as I know, don't even exist. So it's impossible to argue this point.
Nihilus is so overrated. His combat speed and duelling abilities are pitiful and not something Sidious hasn't seen before. His drain is powerful yes, but Sidious IS too fast for him. Also, comparing any other sith to Sidious is somewhat redundant no? Furthermore, Tenebrous' master could do similar things that Meetra Surik could in regards to the 'wound in the force' thing, so why wouldn't Sidious know the technique?
Last edited by CriticalShaft on Apr 4th, 2020 at 12:33 PM
ROS Palpatine vs. Darth Nihilus.
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