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Sheev
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All-Sith Sidious & All-Jedi Rey vs. The Son

Fight takes place on Mortis.

How goes it?


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Darthadi
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The Son stomps

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Galan007
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Depends if Rey was capable of tapping into Anakin's power/potential.


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Darthadi
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I don't think Rey's amp was literrally the power of all the jedi.
The ones could tear apart the very fabric of the universe acording to the Father. Rey and Palpatine were not even close to that, even with all the jedi/sith amps.

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Galan007
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I don't think Rey's amp was literrally the power of all the jedi.
It was certainly implied to have been:

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And given that Palpatine was channeling the power of all the Sith:

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...It makes sense that it would require the power of all the Jedi to negate the power of all the Sith.

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The ones could tear apart the very fabric of the universe acording to the Father. Rey and Palpatine were not even close to that, even with all the jedi/sith amps.
Not disagreeing.

Just saying that the only chance they'd have against The Son would be if Rey was capable of tapping into Anakin's power/potential(as that was sufficient to own the Daughter and Son simultaneously while on Mortis)... But that's a big "IF".


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Darth Thor
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^ Does it make sense though? Given the Jedi must massively outnumber the Sith given how long the RO2 was in place, plus the Jedi have like 3 Skywalkers on side.

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Galan007
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The RoT was established by Bane ~1,000 years before the PT. We don't really know what the Sith numbers were prior to that in canon. However, the RoS junior novel does imply that their numbers were just as great as the Jedi's in the thousands of years prior to the RoT being created.

It's also possible that the Sith were simply a good deal more powerful than the Jedi in general, which could balance the scales if they had fewer numbers overall.

Either way, the clear intent is that Palpatine was controlling the power of all the Sith before him, thus Rey had to harness the power of all the Jedi before her to counter him.


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^ Does it make sense though? Given the Jedi must massively outnumber the Sith given how long the RO2 was in place, plus the Jedi have like 3 Skywalkers on side.

It’s disney, none of it makes sense

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If I were them I’d say it was mainly thanks to Anakin’s power that she defeated the Emperor. At least it’s some damage control


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Yeah I mean there were 10,000 Jedi just at the time of the ROTS. Honestly I just dont think Abrams thought about it much. Harnessing the entire dark side of the Force vs the entire Light side would make much more sense in terms of them being equally matched. Like the Daughter vs Brother sort of thing.

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I really never thought about Rey having the combined power of Luke and Anakin. That by itself would have made her unbelievably powerful. Never mind the added power of 1000 generations of Jedi. JFC.

And to think it took all that just to match Sidious. messed


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Sid also had all the Sith Eli


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Bump.


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Don't see why the embodiment of the Dark Side doesn't squash these two. Despite the supposed amps, all we saw from anything of that was Sidious and that was just one showing of what was basically an EMP attack.

Feats > Implications of amps.

Yeah, supposed power that threatens to destroy the universe and...all that comes of it is some Lighting struggle. Sure...ok...sounds to me like whatever outside sources, doesn't apply to the movies because none of that makes any sense. I bet Abrams didn't even really put much thought into it.


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Feats > Implications of amps.




That would apply to The Son as well in that case.

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Son gets anally raped.


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That would apply to The Son as well in that case.


Not really he has better feats, fighting with the embodiment of the Light is the highest one he has which would put him over the other 2.


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Galan007
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Think it just depends how you think post-dyad Palpatine, acting as a vessel for all the Sith, compares to the Son.

When Rey crossed her sabers, it created an "impenetrable shield" that cast Palpatine's lightning back onto him, destroying him "body and soul." So *maybe* the same kind of thing might work against the Son's lighting(assuming he didn't just...you know... stop generating the lightning when it began feeding back)? Dunno.

That said, I'm also not sure why the Son couldn't just shut off Rey's sabers(like he did to Kenobi and Ahsoka), and proceed to brutalize her in other ways..? /shrug


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Sith Allfather>Son>Valkorion>RoS Sidious/DE Sidious

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Not really he has better feats, fighting with the embodiment of the Light is the highest one he has which would put him over the other 2.



Lol but embodiment of Light is also not a feat.

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