Both canon versions and both at peak, who will win in each of the following:-
1. Light sabers only
2. Force powers and abilities (Force lightening is not allowed for Dooku)
3. H2H Combat only
4. All out fight with all of the above
1. Maul, but it's really, really close. Could honestly go either way in terms of skill level (Maul's put up a great fight against Sidious, Dooku held his own for a time against Yoda). What I think gives Maul the edge is physicality and his sheer aggression against Dooku's more measured fighting style. Basically the same advantage that Anakin had against Dooku in Revenge of the Sith.
2. Dooku, no question. There's nothing Maul has done with the Force that Dooku couldn't replicate. On top of that, Dooku has Force lightning, and has shown the ability to deflect it as well. Maul, meanwhile, has never shown the ability to use Force lightning, nor has he ever displayed the ability to defend against it.
3. Maul, but again it's not going to be easy for him. Dooku has shown surprising skill at H2H against Obi-Wan and Anakin during Season 6. Once again, Maul's physicality and aggression should give him the advantage over Dooku here.
4. Very close, but I'm leaning toward Maul. Dooku could take it if he tried to keep distance between himself and Maul, spamming Force powers. But that's not really Dooku's preferred approach. He can't help himself from engaging in a lightsaber duel. And when he does, he's going to wind up on the back foot for most of this encounter. I also doubt that Dooku's Force lightning is powerful enough to put down Maul decisively.
Maul technically has more frequent large scale TK feats, but Dooku's casual TK feat while training Savage is basically equal to most of what we've seen Maul do.
Maul's only feat above what we've seen Dooku do is when he destroyed the engines of a Venator, but that took him considerable time and effort. Nothing we have says Dooku couldn't replicate said feat with a similar amount of time. And even then, it's not much more impressive than when Dooku collapsed a massive cave enterance in TCW.
The casual ease with which Dooku pulls off feats on a similar scale to which Maul usually performs out of desperation leads me to believe Dooku is probably more powerful than Maul, and just hasn't been in situations where he's needed to display high end feats like pushing a ship.
My thoughts are if Yoda and Dooku are close enough in force powers that it comes to a lightsaber duel, it definitely would be the same for maul and Dooku. Maul is canonically proven to be the superior combatant, so as long as Maul doesn't do anything stupid (unlikely) Maul SHOULD win.
The same reason why Maul lost to Kenobi in TPM. The same reason why Anakin lost to Obi-wan in rots. Same reason why Maul lost to a blinded Kanan in rebels. Power and saber skills aren't everything when it comes to an outcome of a duel. It's about what fits the storyline. The theme of joining the dark side is yes, it's quick, easy, and leads to great power, but it also comes with arrogance and over-confidence. When a dark-side user loses, it's often due to that (but not always).
The key differentiator in this fight is saber skills, which Maul is canonically proven to be the greater of the two. If he can keep his head on correctly, he'll win. If not, Dooku can realistically take this too.
Last edited by Forschbewithu on May 9th, 2021 at 10:48 PM
oh Yeah remember that top 5 list ranked Maul ranked higher than dooku...
Savage nearly bested dooku when he knocked Dookus light saber out of his hands also when he forced pushed dooku away , pretty impressive i reckon if savage can do that Maul should be able to do better as hes better then Savage....
Agreed. Obi-wan can do it as well as he's also better than Savage... Wait a moment.
Anyway, Maul is barely more competent than Ahsoka. Even if we dismiss his loss due to overconfidence, the fact that she lasted as long and pushed him as hard as she does does not speak well of Maul's ability. I'm far more inclined to give credence to the duels we observed over a dubious list.
Yeah good point but Obi sort of caught savage of guard ie kicking the leg etc.. In their other duels savage didnt do so bad against Obi ie when he dueled both aniken and obi , also when he knocks Obis saber out of his hands or disarms him..
Yes but when Maul fought ahsoka he had no intention to outright kill her some say maul was holding back with that regard ie not going for the kill just to capture her..filoni also said maul was more skilled then her.. Yeah well i guess if the list is canon then it does hold some water..
Last edited by ozz81 on May 11th, 2021 at 05:58 AM
Cool but I hear from others that Dooku was very familiar with Obis style as he was the master of his master ie Qui gon Jin etc .. and also why Obi was doing well against aniken in ROTS as he was also familiar with his style as he was his master etc
Also with the maul vs Obi duels Maul wasn’t actually trying to kill Obi hence I guess not showing him outright beat him..
May 5th, 2021 02:32 AM
