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Ahsoka (from Ahsoka series) vs Count Dooku

Ahsoka (from Ahsoka series) vs Count Dooku at peak both cannon who wins in:

1. H2H
2. LIGHT SABERS
3. FORCE POWERS
4. ANYTHING GOES

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Dooku tbh


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Dooku rapes her.

Not literally.


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Yeah tbh Live action Ahsoka is quite underpowered. For instance in the last ep we see her struggling to lift that Jedi ship with Ezra help, but then in SW: Jedi Survivor you have Cere Junda taking ships down with the force like nothing. You also have her fighting equally with Marrok while she could stomp two inquisitors back in rebels.


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Dooku ragdolls

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Dooku is on a different level, I'm pretty sure.


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Yeah tbh Live action Ahsoka is quite underpowered. For instance in the last ep we see her struggling to lift that Jedi ship with Ezra help, but then in SW: Jedi Survivor you have Cere Junda taking ships down with the force like nothing. You also have her fighting equally with Marrok while she could stomp two inquisitors back in rebels.
Characters are always going to appear weaker in live action than they do in animation and other media, but that doesn't mean they ARE weaker (Vader is like THE prime example of this.)

As far as we have been led to believe, Ahsoka!Ahsoka > Rebels Ahsoka > TCW Ahsoka. And considering that TCW Ahsoka was nearly on par with Maul, it stands to reason that she should at least be very close to Dooku's level by this point. She's probably not beating him in the Force thanks to Dooku's lightning spam (although an argument could be made that she might be able to block Dooku's lightning, based on her blocking Sidious's magics while in TWBW), but sabers and all-out should be extremely close imo.


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Yeah Rosario's choreography looked blocky compared to how fluid it came off in animation, but that doesn't mean she was canonically less skilled or whatever. All of her feats and statements prior to live action still count.

I'm undecided.


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Characters are always going to appear weaker in live action than they do in animation and other media, but that doesn't mean they ARE weaker (Vader is like THE prime example of this.)

As far as we have been led to believe, Ahsoka!Ahsoka > Rebels Ahsoka > TCW Ahsoka. And considering that TCW Ahsoka was nearly on par with Maul, it stands to reason that she should at least be very close to Dooku's level by this point. She's probably not beating him in the Force thanks to Dooku's lightning spam (although an argument could be made that she might be able to block Dooku's lightning, based on her blocking Sidious's magics while in TWBW), but sabers and all-out should be extremely close imo.
yeah I agree but that doesn’t prevent Live action Vader from ragdolling the 13th sister, or even Kenobi in their first duel, or Sidious oneshotting 3 Jedi back in 2005. One can still look impressive in LA. Dunno I think that the lack of powerful opponents and of a good sparring partner may have actually caused Ahsoka’s skill to stagnate or get a bit rusty. There are several example of characters whose growth sometimes slows down and then speeds up, based on the challenges they faces. Anakin for instance improved during the clone wars at a much faster rate than in the 10 previous years as a Jedi. Quinlan Vos in DD also grew noticeably after he started training and fighting with Ventress and Dooku instead of hunting down criminals as usual. Cal Kestis literally forgot how to use many force powers after taking a break from training for 5 years, only to become vastly more powerful in a matter of months once he had a challenge. Same goes for Cere Junda, she went from being two shotted by Vader to posing a serious threat to him in 5 years. It’s basically as if you started doing push-ups, at first you’re out of shape and can only do 20, then you improve and you can do 40. But if for some reason you go back to 20 you won’t see any improvement


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^^ Ahsoka's skills improved vastly between TCW and Rebels (as confirmed in a sourcebook), and there's no reason as of right now to assume that her skills did anything but improve after Rebels. I mean, she somehow learned to use psychometry after all.

So clunky choreography aside, I think she could hang with Dooku if we're looking at the big picture.


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^^ Ahsoka's skills improved vastly between TCW and Rebels (as confirmed in a sourcebook), and there's no reason as of right now to assume that her skills did anything but improve after Rebels. I mean, she somehow learned to use psychometry after all.

So clunky choreography aside, I think she could hang with Dooku if we're looking at the big picture.


Except that Psychometry isn't a power one just learns, they have to be born with it. But it's not at all shocking that Dave gave her this power, despite no hints to it previously and ignoring established lore.


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Mmm are we sure that was psychometry? Jedi who use it can actually watch the scene as if they were there, while it looked like Ahsoka more or less sensed what happened through the force


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I'd say Dooku in a hard fight. I'd say he wins 6-7/10 times.

Dooku is still established to have force powers on par with Yoda, all but slightly inferior. A legend in the Jedi order, and a more powerful sith lord.

I'm sure Ahsoka from her own show is more powerful than she was in rebels However, it's impossible to determine by how much. She held her own against Vader in rebels, beat Maul in CW (when she was pre-prime), and fought evenly with Maul in rebels. This definitely puts Ahsoka In Dooku's weight class and should be a very close fight

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