Let's say that a Borg cube was able to use their temporal warp technology and travel to a galaxy long ago and far far away. They encounter a fully manned and operational Death Star. And just for shits and giggles Vader and the Emperor are both on board. Who wins? My money is on the Borg.
The Death Star lazer may be powerful, but it's Achillies heel is that it's really only effective if the target is directly in front of it. As far as force powers go the force lightning would only be good for one or two drones. Same with the light saber. Vader and the Emperor could stand their ground for a little while, with Vader doing most of the work himself, because at the end of the day he's just a tool for the Emperor, but eventually he would succumb to fatigue, like he did with Luke in "Jedi". The coup de tat would be when Vader is over whelmed and assimilated by the drones. Just the idea of a Vader Drone makes me all tingly inside.
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Does the Death Star have a large compliment of Tie Fighters n'stuff? If it does, then, the Death Star wins.
If not, then the Borg Cube very slowly maneuvers, at all times, outside of the superlaser and the other guns.
As has been shown in otherthreads, the Star Wars weapons have a much shorter range than the Star Trek ones. The Borg Cube can sit, quite comfortably outside of all fire from the Death Star, and scan the Death Star for weaknesses. Then teleport torpedoes inside the ship's weak spots.
The Tie Fighters will change this, though, IMO. They should quickly be able to destroy, by swarming, one Borg cube before it adapts.
The Tie fighters laser based weapons would be useless against a Borg cube. In TNG when the Enterprise was mind controlled and duped into fighting a war for another race Commander Riker and Captain Picard both scoffed at how inferior laser technology was in comparison the the Enterprise's phasers and photon torpedoes. The Borg cube would easily wipe out any shield generators that the Empire would have on any neighboring planets or moons and either blast the Death Star into oblivion with its superior firepower or simply slice and dice it with it's cutting beam.
I recall in Battlefront II the narrator speaking how they should have jettisoned the entire Detention Block in to space. Wherever the Borg teleport (assuming they can do so through the Death Star's "magnetic field" or w/e, they get sucked in to space or blown apart by the blasters that every crewman carries. Nai proved in the SW vs. ST thread how Star Wars "laser" weapons are really a particle-based plasma weapon, and how the Borg have no such shielding for those.
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Am I the only one who thinks that the range argument is kind of bullshit regardless? They're in space; it's not as if they have to worry about bullet drop and the Coriolis affect or anything. One could argue that the laser would simply "fizzle out", but, the damn thing moves at like 50,000 kilometers a second, and it's not even an actual laser.
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The laser canon fire has a clearly visible range. The "shots" completely disappear after a certain distance.
On top of that, if the lasers were light based, anyway, their energy would dissipate per unit traveled by a power of 2. (Highschool physics).
But it would appear that the technology from Star Wars has advanced enough to keep the "light" together almost completely until a certain distance.
And, yes, the "bullet drop" effect is still there as light is still attracted by gravity. teehee WEEEEEE! ( )
But, fact is, the laser canon fire from Star Wars has an effective range. Star Trek does as well. The range is much much farther for Star Trek. Borg cubes are no exception.
Star Wars "lasers" aren't light, as Borbarad kept arguing.
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Yeah. Like I said, they're not actual lasers. It's a misnomer.
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Wookiee cites the first Death Star's superlaser has having a power of "2.4×1032 watts" and an "optimum range of 2,000,000 kilometers and a working range of 420,000,000 kilometers."
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Would make sense, considering the Galaxy's Guns range is: The span of the Galaxy.
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