[QUOTE=16350088]Originally posted by bbrem123
[B]Which tier list do these DBZ/DBS characters fit in and why?
I'm seeing a massive range of where people think they should be placed.
Base Goku - DBS -Street
SS1 Goku - DBZ - Street
SS3 Goku - DBZ - Streer
SSB Goku - Street
SSB Goku Kaioken x10 - Metw
Beerus - Meta
Whis - Meta
Zeno - Street
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Not sure about Goku not being Skyfather. Odin, who's like, top tier Skyfather, isn't necessarily even better than Goku. Odin is certainly more versatile, though.
Beerus and Whis are probably Celestial-Tier (Beerus and Whis, on top of having destructive capacity rivaling some of the best Celestials, also have a very high degree of versatility, unlike most characters in Dragon Ball).
Agreed with Omni-King being Celestial +, he'd probably wipe the floor with most of them, though.
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Beerus can fly, shoot energy beams, and erase (most) things from existence. It works for him, but he's not versatile at all by marvel/dc standards.
Whis can fly, generate and manipulate matter on a small scale, can manipulate time on a small scale, has a MFTL transportation skill, and some divination powers. His esoteric power lineup is better, but they're all far, far weaker than what even the most pathetic Skyfather could pull off.
On average mountain/city busting, which is solidly high herald level, and top end planetary, well below skyfather top end. Only "feat" that comes close to Skyfather is the universe waves, which is a one off non feat from an unreliable narrator.
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Their speed falls far short of comics, and their durability is sketchy.
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Regular people can follow them. Their biggest "feat" was Roshi vs Krillin way back in dragon ball, and doing a million things in a second faster then anyone can see is street level cheese, happens all the time.
Zeno's arms also got tired just by holding them up.
Goku and Vegeta got knocked around by Arale, Krillin was hurt by bullets, Goku got defeated by a regular laser. And the tournament of power is rife with hazards Superman or even Power Man would shrug off.
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Beerus can also nullify energy and seal people into swords.
And yes, while Skyfathers do have more versatility, they also tend to have (far) less raw power than the likes of Beerus. Furthermore, Skyfathers almost never bring such a breadth of versatility to bear in a fight. This is the same reason why I don't even have Galactus on par with Beerus.
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