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Darkstorm Zero
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Theory: Remake the G1 toon.

I just thought I'd gather up everyone's ideas into a 'what-if' they decided to do a remake of the G1 toons with todays tech and storywriting potential.

What would you like to see in a potential remake, what would you remove/add in/alter?


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It would probably end up like all the versions out now.

If they did do it I'd like to see it aimed more at adults. I fact, I'd like to see a lot of comic cartoons go that direction. Either aimed at adults or have some kind of layer that adults can appreciate like some cartoons have.


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With the Alternators and Masterpiece TFs, It has been proven that you could have Bluestreak, Prowl, Jazz, mp Prime, Magnus, Starscream Megatron and Thundercracker, Skywarp etc that you can a have a cartoon accurate robot design and convincing alt mode.

And you can with the right amount of time spent designing it, make em G1 or Updated.
So character designs wise that'd be the way.

Id go with the original premise and pick it up where the G1 series left off, setting it in 2009/2010.

Prime could be Leader after Rodimus' tenure.


The animation style would be all old school G1 in appearance and rendering, but maybe with CGI assisted mechanicry involved too.

The series could be involved in LOST style flashbacks showing a revised/revisited classic G1 comic and cartoon storylines in the new rendering. (Some of the best comic lines were involving time travel also.)
That way you could have the "Back in the day where robots really did have to disguise themselves" aspect of TFs sneaking around etc,
and also the TFs being accepted or hated by the public that coexist with them in the current timeframe.

OR you could just go reboot and have the ark crashing 4 million years ago, but reactivated by a recent eruption in 2009.


An interesting question in anycase..


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They could just do the exact same thing they did with Transformers Animated, only make the characters look like the IDW pages. TF: Animated had lots of fanwank that made their hardcore fanbase, not it's missed by many.


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But that young optimus shit is for the birrrrrrrrrrrrrrds man.


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But that young optimus shit is for the birrrrrrrrrrrrrrds man.


Yeah, it's one of the shows very few downsides. Besides the character models, opened plot holes, and human villains, it is a great show that would be even better if it had IDW styled bots and a similar Prime from G1.


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I personally would like to see at least a few seasons of G1 pre-Earth TFs. as for animation style, I dunno, Armada was done well, but eliminate stock footage transformation tapes, or at least minimise it's use. Then, chain, pre-Earth seasons into earth landing, and run with it from there.


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I would like a remake. I also wouldn't mind a "continuation" but they have to keep in mind that the Japanese cartoons continued the G1 canon when the U.S. cartoons finished, so they can either go off of those, or start a new continuity.

I would really like a mature, dark series that focused on the Great War. Obviously, that would never happen, but the mythology is rich enough to really make it a very, very good show.

A conflict that turns a golden paradise into a charred gray husk of a planet, that lasts for over 4 million years...there's a lot of story that can be told in there.

The "horrors of war" could also be really depicted here. Say ravage and lazerbeak capture bumblebee. The decepticons are preparing to make a daring strike at iacon but they need to get some intelligence first.

Soundwave and lazerbeak would take bumblebee to soundwave, and soundwave would take him to shockwave, military operations commander. Now ordinarily tv shows cannot show graphic torture...but because this is specifically a show about robots, there is no such "censorship" that goes into play. For ex. they could show shockwave threatening to rip out bumblebee's optics, and then show him to actually do it.

That isn't to say that they should show it for the sake of providing shock value...but they show it to depict "the horrors of war" in a way that could never be depicted ordinarily using human-based characters.

So they can elicit the same emotional response from the audience, without breaking any censorship rules. Therefore the writers could theoretically "break the rules" every episode, but because it's a cast of robots, the whole story ends up becoming much more life-like and real (meaning, everything isn't always a happy ending, and shi+ happens when you have good guys and bad guys fighting each other) than would be otherwise possible with human beings, ironically.


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Well, given the fact that most TF fans are kn their twenties, especially G1 fans, that kind of shock value is definitely doable, a War Within type story for a decent slice of seasons would be really good, then follow through to Earth awakening and beyond. Retell the story in a coherent and competent way, forget that stupid censor rule and make it M or MA, most kids know diddly about G1 and care even less.


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These are all some great ideas, guys.


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Originally posted by Scythe
Yeah, it's one of the shows very few downsides. Besides the character models, opened plot holes, and human villains, it is a great show that would be even better if it had IDW styled bots and a similar Prime from G1.


I'd buy that for a dollar.


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Same here. Rumor has it there's another TF cartoon in the making. Not sure if it'll follow the Animated look though.


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I reakon a remake of G1 could be done really good they manage to do a decent remake of He-Man can't see why Transformers can't be accomplised.


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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Well, given the fact that most TF fans are kn their twenties, especially G1 fans, that kind of shock value is definitely doable, a War Within type story for a decent slice of seasons would be really good, then follow through to Earth awakening and beyond. Retell the story in a coherent and competent way, forget that stupid censor rule and make it M or MA, most kids know diddly about G1 and care even less.


I agree. Even more so:

In their early thirties too.

If you were like 5-12 in 1984 then thats the 30-37 range covered.


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Originally posted by Kazenji
I reakon a remake of G1 could be done really good they manage to do a decent remake of He-Man can't see why Transformers can't be accomplised.


Licensing might be the biggest issue. Even moreso now, thanks to Bhey and his friends, the dollar bills.


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Originally posted by Scythe
Same here. Rumor has it there's another TF cartoon in the making. Not sure if it'll follow the Animated look though.


Not sure either...apparently Hasbro did say that Animated set a new standard in quality for Transformers cartoons. Honestly I didn't really care for the animated-style designs...largely why I don't collect the animated line. I did really enjoy the writing of the show however, and that was enough to make me look forward to it on my DVR schedule. I didn't like the designs per se, but the show itself was quality, and that makes it a winner with me.

That being said, if they are going to set Animated as the new benchmark against which future programs will be measured, I'm pretty optimistic.


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'Animated' ends at season 3 finale, according to its producers.


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'Animated' ends at season 3 finale, according to its producers.


Yeah, and they've confirmed a new tv show is in the works, which they'll use animated as a benchmark for. That's good news to me.


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Will they bother to get Prowl right this time...?

'Cause that was f***ing blasphemy lolz


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huh really? Actually I agree with you. Slightly surprised though as a lot of people seeming like this cyber ninja shi+. I don't particularly like it but it doesn't annoy me...too much.

I'm glad they really fleshed out prowl's character, which was sorely lacking in the G1 cartoon. However I was hoping they pimped up his "2nd in command" role that was in the original toy bio but never convincingly made it to the cartoon.


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