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Tongue Star Wars universe vs Transformers universe

Any omnipotents/near omnipotents, if any, are not allowed.


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Sun crusher = SW wins.

At least as far as I know, no transformer can withstand a supernova. To tell the truth one SSD could probably rape pretty much all TFer's in space and jedi could probably take them in CQC, so yeah.

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Unicron, unopposed by the Matrix, solos.


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Unicron sucks balls. The galaxy gun (Death Star +10) would own teh shit outta him.


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Well....that kinda rules out force users then, I guess.......Ho hum.


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Well....that kinda rules out force users then, I guess.......Ho hum.


1. Force users are NOT omnipotent/near omnipotent. Not even close to it.

2. Contrary to what a lot of people who don't know much about SW think, their most powerful/important factors are NOT the jedi/sith when it comes to a war, but their fleets, technology and such.


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Are we using everyone in the SW and TF universe. Like, for example, even those in the Alternity Universe, they're transformers too, they're just beasts.


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Sun crusher = SW wins.

At least as far as I know, no transformer can withstand a supernova. To tell the truth one SSD could probably rape pretty much all TFer's in space and jedi could probably take them in CQC, so yeah.

Ownage.


There was a thread similar to this before.

mind tricks and other force powers (to my knowledge) wont work on robotic beings. therefore the TFs have a huge advantage in surprise and stealth (as well they should).

Decepticons send their best infiltrators into the Empire (soundwave, reflector, etc.). They quickly discern the power structure and assess the strengths and weaknesses of the Star Wars characters.

They orchestrate events such that the most threatening organic being of all (the Emperor) is inadvertently made to board an imperial shuttle, when he is in fact boarding a decepticon. The decepticons decapitate the empire and after that, hacking into their systems they quickly control the death star, ship yards, the sun crusher, and whatever else. In fact the Transformers already have the leg up on tech...they have a much more compact weapon that can cause the same thing to occur as the sun crusher (cause supernovas).

As for the Jedi taking the Transformers in close quarters combat....please. How many years did it take the republic to contain and defeat the mandalorians, whose tech is wildly inferior to anything in the transformers universe?

there is no piece of field military equipment or formation that the republic nor the empire can use against the likes of trypticon or metroplex, who would just erase entire armies in seconds, transform to fly off to the next planet, and repeat.

All the plot device jedis/siths like exar kun and the rest would all be swiftly identified by decepticon/autobot intelligence and removed by stealth, deception, and guile.

No one in the star wars universe would ever imagine in their wildest dreams that the very vehicles they relentlessly manufacture and throw into huge war efforts would ever actually be sentient and used against them with extreme prejudice, nor would they ever imagine their force powers fail to alert them to the presence of an advanced alien race plotting their destruction. this even happened already with the yuuzhan vong...the force failed to detect them and the result: the entire new republic totally destroyed.

Transformers for the convincing win.


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It's both funny and annoying (NOT directed at you, just in general) that a lot of people in vs. threads involving SW ignore their technology and just focus on Jedi and such.

Anyway, how advanced is the Transformers' space travel? This would play a huge role.


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It's both funny and annoying (NOT directed at you, just in general) that a lot of people in vs. threads involving SW ignore their technology and just focus on Jedi and such.

Anyway, how advanced is the Transformers' space travel? This would play a huge role.


Even early G1 tech had transwarp travel (A mobile rendition of Spacebridge tech without the need for anchors), which beats the ever living snot out of Hyperdrive speeds by at least 2 orders of magnitude.

Some cybertronians even have this tech incorporated into their alt modes, ala Omega Supreme, Skylinx, Astrotrain, Scorpinok, Fortress Maximus, Trypticon... ect... Esentially any large Cybertronian of any clear size and space faring capability would have it installed.


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Are we assuming there will be no conflict except SWU vs TFU? Of the four major factions involved, I can't see the Decepticons siding with Autobots to do battle with a combined Jedi-Sith grouping for any reason whatsoever. It's much more likely that, as was noted, the Decepticons would infiltrate the Empire and either take it over or (at least) align themselves with the Emperor. The Autobots, meanwhile, are bound to run across a Jedi somewhere and, true to form, reveal their secret and their mission, make friends, and set about the task of protecting and serving. There are enough advantages and disadvantages on both sides to drag the fight out into a full-blown franchise...

Somewhere in there, they'd need to work in some way to get R2 and Megatron together under circumstances where Megatron won't transform the little droid into a scorch mark. R2-D2 pissing off Megatron could make for highly entertaining dialog.


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The Kwa solos this with the Infinity Gate.

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Are we assuming there will be no conflict except SWU vs TFU? Of the four major factions involved, I can't see the Decepticons siding with Autobots to do battle with a combined Jedi-Sith grouping for any reason whatsoever. It's much more likely that, as was noted, the Decepticons would infiltrate the Empire and either take it over or (at least) align themselves with the Emperor. The Autobots, meanwhile, are bound to run across a Jedi somewhere and, true to form, reveal their secret and their mission, make friends, and set about the task of protecting and serving. There are enough advantages and disadvantages on both sides to drag the fight out into a full-blown franchise...


This is probably the most likely scenario if the crossover where to ever occur.

However, in a purely vs debate terms, I would actually give the win to the cybertronians more often than not, their tech is way more advanced, their mobility is far superior, and they are millions of years exterienced in warfare, including against other advanced species.


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Every Gestalt, Tryptocon, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, the Fallen, etc....

Transformers take this.

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The Cybertronians are mostly confined to a select few systems in most continuities, while the governments of Star Wars control an entire galaxy's worth of resources.


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To be honest, aren't the Transformers horribly outnumbered? I mean, the Empire alone had 25,000 star destroyers.


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