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It seems there's a very large portion of KMC members who are very inknowledgeable of DC comics and seems to hate DC comics with a passion. Why? Discuss.


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i read them, but I dont like DC all that much because they overpower their cvharacters way to much imo

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I have very few Dc comics. I don't dislike them, in fact one of my favourite storyline's is a DC one (Batman Hush) However, I generally prefer Marvel because of the Characters eg. Spidey, Deadpool etc and because of the storylines eg. Ultimates the skrull alien invasion storyline and Daredevil Guardian Devil.


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I never understood why DC is considered overpowered. Compared to Marvel I'd say they're underpowered. For example, Superman is considered overpowered by haters everywhere but people like Thor and Silver Surfer aren't?


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I never understood why DC is considered overpowered. Compared to Marvel I'd say they're underpowered. For example, Superman is considered overpowered by haters everywhere but people like Thor and Silver Surfer aren't?


I really do believe that D.C. characters are on the whole a bit more powerful than Marvel characters. But Marvel is definately catching up !!!!!!!!!!!

I dont tghink anyone hates D.C. i just think that Marvel is far more popular on this forum.

With exception of the Mutants i dont like the way the powers are distrubuted . (Not with street level characters) Lots ave too many abilities. Like Thors hammer; what exactly Can't it do ???????? Cosmic being can re arrange matter and so on, yet their battles mainly consist of colourful energy blasts. smile

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I think its because many people are young at KMC and find DC plots difficult generally when compared to 616.


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Re: Why Does Everyone Hate/Dislike/Loathe the DC Universe

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It seems there's a very large portion of KMC members who are very inknowledgeable of DC comics and seems to hate DC comics with a passion. Why? Discuss.


I love DC, and think the writing is better.

Marvel has the "cool character" factor.

I think overall that they are a tie.

But if marvel keeps up the secondary mutations...


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nobdy hates dc. who says that? its only a few fringe ppl who's hatin'cuz they know DC is uber powrful. also DC has always had darker, better, twisting and more thought provoking plot lines. other than "wow! we live in the same city has gods, aliens, cyborgs and genticaly enhanced beings but we're hated cuz we're mutants(sob) must.....get... them... to...love...us...by...selflessly...saving...thier...worthless...lives....and getting...no....gratitude.....in return...AaHHHH!!!!!"

or...."geee. i have a hot supermodel/actress wife at home, but instead of bouncing that ass every chance i get, i run off at the sound of the faintest siren becuase...saving...lives....is...more...important....than....working....on...my...mariiage....Aaahhaa!!!"


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I guess if each universe is based on total bench press then yeah, DC is overpowered.


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nobdy hates dc. who says that? its only a few fringe ppl who's hatin'cuz they know DC is uber powrful. also DC has always had darker, better, twisting and more thought provoking plot lines. other than "wow! we live in the same city has gods, aliens, cyborgs and genticaly enhanced beings but we're hated cuz we're mutants(sob) must.....get... them... to...love...us...by...selflessly...saving...thier...worthless...lives....and getting...no....gratitude.....in return...AaHHHH!!!!!"

or...."geee. i have a hot supermodel/actress wife at home, but instead of bouncing that ass every chance i get, i run off at the sound of the faintest siren becuase...saving...lives....is...more...important....than....working....on...my...mariiage....Aaahhaa!!!"
lol

" bouncing that ass"


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I think its because many people are young at KMC and find DC plots difficult generally when compared to 616.


I like DC but this is the best plot they did.......


http://www.superdickery.com/dick/112.html


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Well, it may be because people like Marvel more (overall) but that doesn't mean they loathe DC. I sure don't. I read Batman, Superman and GL comics. I do like Marvel better however.


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Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I think its because many people are young at KMC and find DC plots difficult generally when compared to 616.

Actually, quite the opposite.

D.C is the Disney of comics, they have the ultra happy goody goody heroes who always saves the day.
Wonder Woman is perfect with no weaknesses, Superman is always happy go lucky ready to save the world, perfect looks, perfect parents, perfect power. It's too kiddy. Too unrealistic.

There are hardly ever any type of conflicting (well, definitely none pre crisis).
Galactus is a prime example, he was one of, if not the first character who was a villain, but not really.
Yes he killed everyone with no remorse, but he didn't have a choice, he wasn't evil because he was above such terms.
D.C didn't have this, in D.C everything was cut and dry, black and white.
Only until recently did D.C realize no one relates to perfect heroes.
Most people outgrow D.C after they turn 15.

Spiderman is the average joe, Wolverine is totally conflicted and wasn't at first a superhero at all. Ironman was a alcoholic. Strange was too, plus he has to refuse to help non magic problems.


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X-Men are the generic outcasts, you can replace "mutant" with what ever oppressed group you are. Watch X2 again, and during the discussion with Mr and Mrs. Drake replace the word "mutant" with anything, like gay. Try it out and see what I mean.


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Yep. Mutant back then was equated to race. NOW it's equated to homosexuality.


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Originally posted by long pig
Actually, quite the opposite.

D.C is the Disney of comics, they have the ultra happy goody goody heroes who always saves the day.
Wonder Woman is perfect with no weaknesses, Superman is always happy go lucky ready to save the world, perfect looks, perfect parents, perfect power. It's too kiddy. Too unrealistic.

There are hardly ever any type of conflicting (well, definitely none pre crisis).
Galactus is a prime example, he was one of, if not the first character who was a villain, but not really.
Yes he killed everyone with no remorse, but he didn't have a choice, he wasn't evil because he was above such terms.
D.C didn't have this, in D.C everything was cut and dry, black and white.
Only until recently did D.C realize no one relates to perfect heroes.
Most people outgrow D.C after they turn 15.

Spiderman is the average joe, Wolverine is totally conflicted and wasn't at first a superhero at all. Ironman was a alcoholic. Strange was too, plus he has to refuse to help non magic problems.


Good post!!


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What REALLY annoys me is that many posters in the VERSUS forum create "Let's see a DC hero(s) get the crap pounded out of him by a hopelessly outmatched foe"

For god's sake when you pit beings like Set or the Eternals against someone like Superman you KNOW something is incredibly biased.


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no doubt about it, draco. the other thing that confuses me - there were about 4 posts saying DC is overpowered, yet the majority of the threads created (that use characters that are approximately even in power levels) have the MARVEL character defeating the DC character.

what people fail to understand about the characters in dc is that they are iconic, a part of our culture and history. that can be both good and bad. the good thing is they are the originals. those who hold to tradition and a sense of . . . nostalgia, will forever love batman, wonderwoman, superman, aquaman. the BAD thing though is that because they were created first, others that followed were able to take the general idea of the characters and in SOME WAYS (in SOME eyes), make them better. marvel did this by granting their characters a 'never-before-achieved-up-til-that-time' level of 'humanity'. they saw what dc offered - god-like heroes, nearly infallible and unbeatable -- so they took things in a different direction. but had dc not paved the way for the medium, marvel may never have been what it is - IF it would have been at all.

seeing the success marvel was having with their 'human characters', dc was forced to change. but there was/is the problem - because their heroes ARE icons, how do they alter the characters WITHOUT fundamentally altering them?? they've struggled with it for decades now. have they fixed the problem and found a happy medium? i'm not sure. the quality of both story AND art has increased in the comic industry - it had to or it might not have survived. i've always enjoyed both, but they ARE distinct. i agree with long that marvel is more . . . complex, perhaps a bit more reflective of our world and its foibles/ perhaps that in itself is enough to explain why it is preferred - it is more easily related to. dc often tends to be a bit . . . simpler (though i think they have been muddying the waters more in the alst few years). but even if you DON'T enjoy dc, you should at least have respect for their history and acknowledge the PIVOTAL role characters like wonderwoman and superman played in the history of comics and beyond that, in popular culture itself.

end essay.

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What REALLY annoys me is that many posters in the VERSUS forum create "Let's see a DC hero(s) get the crap pounded out of him by a hopelessly outmatched foe"

For god's sake when you pit beings like Set or the Eternals against someone like Superman you KNOW something is incredibly biased.
Understood completely, I hate biased "spite threads" or whatever they're called, where its like.

"insert character you hate here" threads.

Thats why the threads in comic versus suck mostly...


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