TOHOTMU - The Phoenix Force!!! (As of Nov 30th, 2005)
Okay, with today's issue of The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe, let's see if we can put these "Phoenix" questions to bed once and for all (or at least till the next re-con).
To make things easier, I will post this in two parts. This first post will list powers/abilities. The second will list the history.
Superhuman Powers:
The Phoenix Force is an immortal, indestructible, and mutable manifestation of the prime universal force of life, dirived from the psyches of all living beings. In it's natural state, this life-cycle is enough to sustain the Force. However, in order to manifest itself on the physical plane, the Force must tap into the near limitless source of energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existance. The Force can wield this energy to project beams of immense concussive force, as well as transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole, then it reforms itself upon reaching it's destination, like the Phoenix of Earth legend.
While possessing a human host, the Force is able to augment any super-powers they have to vastly higher levels.
POWER GRID
Intelligence = 7 (Omniscient)
Strength = 7 (Incalculable: In excess of 100 tons)
Speed = 7 (Warp Speed: Transcending light speed)
Durability = 7 (Virtually indestructible)
Energy Projection = 7 (Vitually unlimited command of all forms of energy)
Fighting Skills = 1 (Poor)
Now, for the history...
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KNOWN ALIASES: Chaos-Bringer, Starchilde, Phalkon, formerly Dark Phoenix, Black Queen, Phoenix, Jean Grey
IDENTITY: Secret
OCCUPATION: Celestial elemental; (while possessing a host) adventurer
CITIZENSHIP: Inapplicable
PLACE OF BIRTH: Big Bang
KNOWN RELATIVES: Inapplicable
GROUP AFFILIATION: None; (as Phoenix) formerly X-Men, New Your Hellfire Club (Inner Circle)
EDUCATION: Inapplicable
FIRST APPEARANCE: X-Men #101 (1976)
(Okay, now for the history.)
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HISTORY:
Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. In the dying moments of the previous universe, the Force saved all existence from eternal damnation, enabling Eternity to preserve the humanoid Galan, ensuring his re-creation as Galactus. The Force was subsequently reborn from the cosmic fires of the “Big Bang.” Later, it encountered the malevolent Le Bete Noir and trapped it in the center of a still cooling planet. The Force was drawn back to Earth when it was awakened to reality by Feron, a sorcerer from an alternate Earth who had traveled with his master Necrom to a tower on Earth 616 to witness an alignment of dimensional interfaces. The Force joined with Feron, allowing itself to be shaped by his dreams into the form of a giant fiery bird and experiencing a spectrum of new sensations. At the moment of the alignment, Feron bade the Force to project the essence of the tower throughout the multiverse, so that it existed on every plane of reality simultaneously, creating an energy matrix to allow him to compress all alternate Earths into a singularity, the energy released from which endow him with godlike power, and to that end he tore out the portion of the Force that had bonded to Feron. In agonized confusion over the violation of its essence, the Force fled. Necrom bound the stolen Force with a portion of his own essence, and left it to incubate in a corpse he dubbed the Anti-Phoenix.
In time, the Force’s pain subsided and it discovered that it was unable to return to its natural state. Hundreds of years later, the Force learned that the universe would come under threat from manipulation of the M’kraan Crystal – a hypercubical nexus of realities – by the mad Shi’ar Emperor D’Ken. To prevent this, the Force sought an avatar through which it could act and so return to Earth, seeking out Feron. Instead, the Force encountered Jean Grey, a member of the heroic mutant X-Men team, whose mind the Force had touched earlier. Grey was dying from the effects of solar radiation while piloting a damaged space shuttle. The Force appeared to Grey and offered to save her. She accepted, and so the Force created an exact duplicate of her body for itself, into which it transferred a portion of her consciousness. The Force then sealed her comatose body inside a healing cocoon, and after the shuttle crashed into Jamaica Bay near New York City, the Force emerged from the waters, calling itself Phoenix. The X-Men believed it to be the real Jean Grey, having died and returned to life with vast new powers. Phoenix and the X-Men opposed D’Ken, who exposed the universe to the tremendous gravitational forces contained within the Crystal’s core. Phoenix entered the Crystal and repaired the stasis field, thus saving the cosmos. Phoenix continued to serve as a member of the X-Men, but ultimately its human form was unable to cope with the Forces immense power. At first, Grey’s strong moral sense kept the Force in check, but Phoenix succumbed to the psionic manipulation of Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind). Unable to fully free itself of the sinister side of its personality that Wyngarde exposed it to, and with its human consciousness ill-equipped to repress it, the Force’s primal urges overwhelmed Phoenix, causing it to become the malevolent Dark Phoenix. Due to the limitations of its physical form, Dark Phoenix hungered for more energy and transported itself to the star D’Bari, absorbing all the energy from it. As a result, the star turned supernova, annihilating one of its planets. Dark Phoenix destroyed a Shi’ar starship which had attacked it in retaliation for the D’Bari’s deaths, then returned to Earth where it was opposed by the X-Men and Professor Xavier. He reinforced Grey’s personality, allowing Phoenix to reject its cosmic power.
The Shi’ar still judged it necessary to obliterate Phoenix’s powers entirely, lest it become Dark Phoenix again. The X-Men fought the ruling in a trial by combat against members of the Shi’ar’s Imperial Guard in the Blue Area of Earth’s moon, but during the battle Phoenix reverted to Dark Phoenix. Realizing that is could never fully retain control, Phoenix acted as the real Grey would have. Before the eyes of a horrified Cyclops, it committed suicide by telekinetically triggering an energy cannon, disintegrating its mortal shell. Later reflecting on its folly, the Force sought to undo the damage it had done by returning the life-force it had taken from Grey. On its return to Earth, it sensed the astral form of the time-traveling Rachel Summers, the daughter of Earth-811’s Jean Grey. After returning Grey’s missing life-force, which was instead received by Grey’s clone Madelyne Pryor, the Force followed Rachel back to the future of Earth-811. There, it revealed itself to Kate Pryde, who asked the Force to give Rachel a new lease on life. The Force agreed and took Rachel as its host, supercharging her ability to time travel and causing her to physically travel back in time to Earth-616. Rachel was unaware that she hosted the Force’s essence until she took on the codename Phoenix. The Force then bonded to her fully and ensured that Rachel could only access as much power as she could safely wield, having learned from its past mistake. Adventuring with Rachel and the British super-team Excalibur for a time, the Force ultimately encountered Necrom’s Anti-Phoenix. After a cataclysmic battle, Rachel was destroyed in the blast. The Force gathered her shattered psyche and restored her body, promising Excalibur to protect and nurture her until she fully healed. Through Rachel’s eyes, the Force was able to experience the simple beauty of existence. In space, it encountered the world-devourer Galactus, who revealed to the Force the nature of its existence. Tormented with the knowledge that its desire to explore humanity had prevented generations of life from being born, the Force fled. Rachel reentered the timestream and emerged some 2,000 years into the future of Earth-4935. There, she encountered Diamanda Nero, daughter of that era’s mutant despot Apocalypse, and, in order to defeat her, was forced to purge herself of the Force.
Free again, the Force traveled back into the past, drawn once again to Earth-616. En route, it was transported to the Ultraverse (Earth-93060) by a sentient alien starship that had crashed-landed there eons ago. Buried deep within the Earth, the ship sought to reunite itself with it’s twin trapped within Earth’s sun, and intended to use the Force’s energy to power the recombination. Impaled on a lance of energy that linked the two ships, the Force fought back and managed to free itself, though not before the ship was able to bond them empathetically. Wounded, the Force sought out a host to protect it as it healed. Inhabiting the body of the superstrong hero Prime, the Force was opposed by the X-Men and Prime’s teammates in UltraForce. Exhausting Prime’s physical form, the Force found another host in Amber Hunt, who had privously been possessed by the ships’ essence. The heroes were able to free Hunt from the Force, after which they took the fight to the ship, severing its link to the Force. Seeking revenge, the Force attacked the ship, threatening the stability of the planet. The heroes were able to drive the Force into another portal, and it emerged four billion years in the past. Unleashing vast energies while transmigrating itself through time and space, the Force inadvertently (and ironically) caused the damage to the ship that forced it to crash-land to begin with.
The Force returned to Earth-616 once more and manifested itself within Jean Grey before she was seemingly killed by an electromagnetic pulse. This shattered the Force into billions of pieces. Incubating in the core of creation known as the White Hot Room, the Force was ripped back to reality by a Shi’ar device that forcibly reconstituted it. Injured, the Force fell to Earth and sought out Cyclops to use his mutant optic power to heal itself. To that end, it searched for Cyclopss love Jean and, finding her dead, resurrected her to house its power once more. Opposed by the X-Men again, the Force was lured into possessing the body of Cyclops new love Emma Frost before Jean was able to reassert control. The Force realized that Jean was one of its missing pieces, its prime host, and so it merged with her fully. Returning to the White Hot Room, the Force set out to find it’s other pieces.
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I'll put it in the "The Magneto/Xorn/Xorneto Debacle..." thread in a few.
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BTW, this thread was for you Whirly! You never gave up the fight.
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thank you BlaqChaos and respect to you my friend
and Cresh because I said Morrisin was trying to link Phoenix to Kabbalistic rituals it doesn't mean he suceeded as I have always said the attempt was incredibly flawed. The handbook is Cannon by the way.
Keep the faith
Lots of you did
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The entry makes perfect sense....far more sense than GS made. And as you can see, the PF has shown a history of being confused, tricked, injured and having to flee. It reconciles everything in the Phoenix history nicely....and it doesn't have to ignore a bunch of stuff, like GS's theories have to do in order to work.
Nobody agrees with GS anyway, but I'd like to think that THIS is the final nail in the coffin of anybody who was even on the fence, like Xplosive.
I imagine GS will come in and immediately dismiss it because it's a Handbook, but the only things that are ever questionable about the handbooks are the power ratings, which are subjective and can vary by writer. When Marvel explains HISTORY in these books, it's to be taken as canon. It's the OFFICIAL history of a character. So when Marvel says that the PF is a separate entity that Jean is just able to channel....it is. And there's nothing in anybody's run that challenges that. Not Morrison, not X-men Forever, not Phoenix Endsong. It all fits in to Marvel's explanation.
Its so ambiguous !!!!!!!! I'll admit I'm not as much on an expert as you cresh, whirly leon, or xplosive but this line is causing me a lot of grief ...
"The Force realized that Jean was one of its missing pieces, its prime host, and so it merged with her fully."
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yup but this sure doesn't sound all powerful
The Force returned to Earth-616 once more and manifested itself within Jean Grey before she was seemingly killed by an electromagnetic pulse. This shattered the Force into billions of pieces. Incubating in the core of creation known as the White Hot Room, the Force was ripped back to reality by a Shi’ar device that forcibly reconstituted it.
Keep the faith
Stay Whirly
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What's vague about that? The Phoenix Force is the power of creation, and yet it didn't understand what it created. It needed a human form, so it picked Jean. Jean was really its first avatar (Feron doesn't count), so it has a special relationship with her...its prime host. It can't really interact with the universe unless it has its host:
She's essential to it being more than an energy source, so it bonded with her so it could act and went on its way to healing in the White Hot Room.
It shows that its a limited being, with a limited understanding of the minute nature of the universe, despite its immense power. It shows it capable of pain, capable of being destroyed, capable of confusion and manipulation. And it certainly puts it a level or two below what GS would have us believe.
Does that make more sense?
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