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What's the cut off point for street levelers?

Is anybody without flight considered street level?

Mar 7th, 2006 01:48 AM

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There isn't a cut-off. It depends who you talk to. Some would consider as high as Spider-Man "street level". Others think anyone without powers, only with fighting skill, are street. I tend to think of Cap/DD/DS/etc. as the upper limit, but that's just me.

Oh, and moving. There's also other threads similar to this...I'll look for them in the search when I get the chance.

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Is anybody without flight considered street level?

No, Street level is, IMO, characters at and only slightly above human level physical abilities - Captain America, Bullseye, Batman, etc up to people with extremely low level superpowers Wolverine, DareDevil, Beast

Strength - i'd say below 2 ton lifting ability (or there about)

Speed - up to peak human or slightly above

Characters like Cyclops or Xavier who fall into the strength and speed restrictions still aren't "street level" due to other powers
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There isn't a cut-off. It depends who you talk to. Some would consider as high as Spider-Man "street level". Others think anyone without powers, only with fighting skill, are street. I tend to think of Cap/DD/DS/etc. as the upper limit, but that's just me.

Oh, and moving. There's also other threads similar to this...I'll look for them in the search when I get the chance.

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Mar 7th, 2006 02:06 AM

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No, Street level is, IMO, characters at and only slightly above human level physical abilities - Captain America, Bullseye, Batman, etc up to people with extremely low level superpowers Wolverine, DareDevil, Beast

Strength - i'd say below 2 ton lifting ability (or there about)

Speed - up to peak human or slightly above

Characters like Cyclops or Xavier who fall into the strength and speed restrictions still aren't "street level" due to other powers
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If the guy can reduce a modest size house to rubble using only what he normally has on him within 10 minutes, he's not physically street level.

Any hardcore offensive mental powers usually take the person out of streetlevel, but passive or low level psi powers are ok to me.

It's a weird way to explain it but that's how I've always looked at it.

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Some people go by the villans they fight... DS isn't all that top tier, but people don't consider him street level due to who he fights.

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I always thought of Spider Man as the cut off point.

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DareDevil is about the limit for me, Spidey's strength just puts him to high for street level.

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DareDevil is about the limit for me, Spidey's strength just puts him to high for street level.

But hes far from a powerhouse, hes not a speedster of any significance and hes not an energy manipulator and hes not even bulletproof. To me that says high end street level (or possibly just above it) along with the likes of Daredevil, Agent Zero, Fntomex, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Spider woman, Beast, Sabretooth, Captain America, Blade, Black Panther, Batman and the like.

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But hes far from a powerhouse, hes not a speedster of any significance and hes not an energy manipulator and hes not even bulletproof. To me that says high end street level (or possibly just above it) along with the likes of Daredevil, Agent Zero, Fntomex, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Spider woman, Beast, Sabretooth, Captain America, Blade, Black Panther, Batman and the like.

Maybe not a powerhouse in the Marvel, but still, even Class 15 is a tremendous strength. He could literally pick off three to five trucks and lift them in the air and throw them in his enemies.

I'd put 2 tons as the street limit as well. Or maybe 5.

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But hes far from a powerhouse, hes not a speedster of any significance and hes not an energy manipulator and hes not even bulletproof. To me that says high end street level (or possibly just above it) along with the likes of Daredevil, Agent Zero, Fntomex, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Spider woman, Beast, Sabretooth, Captain America, Blade, Black Panther, Batman and the like.

I think that list of names should look more like

Spider woman (too strong too fast)
Agent Zero (Class 10-15 punches...vibranium armor)
Night Crawler (teleportation.....too fast)

Black Panther
Captain America
Beast
Fantomex
Blade
Batman

I don't think this lower tier should be grouped with that higher bunch.

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I think that list of names should look more like

Spider woman (too strong too fast)
Agent Zero (Class 10-15 punches...vibranium armor)
Night Crawler (teleportation.....too fast)

Black Panther
Captain America
Beast
Fantomex
Blade
Batman

I don't think this lower tier should be grouped with that higher bunch.

Spider-woman is a sucka, and I agree with the list, im glad you didint put DS, i dont hold him as street level.

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Isn't Blade something like Class 40 though?? I don't think he should be there.

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Isn't Blade something like Class 40 though?? I don't think he should be there.

No Blades in about the 1 ton range

Mar 7th, 2006 07:03 PM

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Spider-woman is a sucka, and I agree with the list, im glad you didint put DS, i dont hold him as street level.

I don't think DS is necessarily street level either....but I think Agent Zero would completely tear him apart. I actuallyforgot about him on this list....I'd put him somewhere between BP and Nightcrawler....but I think he could take Nightcrawler.

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Is Luke Cage at Street Level .... Arguably the 3rd strongest New Avenger !

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Is Luke Cage at Street Level .... Arguably the 3rd strongest New Avenger !

IMO no....Luke Cage isn't street level

Mar 7th, 2006 07:19 PM

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Is Luke Cage at Street Level .... Arguably the 3rd strongest New Avenger !

No, Cage isn't street level.

You won't find many street levelers in the Avengers, only Captain America, Black Panther, Beast, Falcon, Hawkeye, Mockingbird and a few others.

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