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Pound for pound

Someone mentioned in another thread that Thor may be the strongest Hero on Marvel Earth pound for pound as the Hulk weighs more than twice as much as he does

So..... out of only hero's born on Marvel Earth, who is, pound for pound, the strongest... not Including Hulk (due to the whole impossible "unlimited strength" garbage)

I'd like to submit Ant-Man and Yellow Jacket for consideration:

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Ant Man can reduce his height from 6ft to around half an inch (1.2 cm....ish) while keeping his 6ft strength level

http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../a/antmanii.htm

Now Ant Man (and Yellow Jacket) are fairly fit and strong guys who exercise regularly... let's say Hank Pym can press 250lbs in the gym

As he's reducing his height by a factor of 150 his mass will be reduced by an even greater factor (as he's light enough to fly on an ant's back)

"suppose we scale up an ant by a factor of 1000. This increases the ant's length from 1/8 inch to about 10.5 feet It increases the strength of the ant's legs by a factor of 1000 squared, or 1 million. This sounds very reassuring until we look at the ant's increase in mass and weight.Each segment of the ant's body is roughly similar to a sphere whose weight is proportional to its volume given by the equation:
V = (4/3)pr3

With constant density, the weight therefore increases with the cube of the scaling factor. Hence, weight increases by a factor of 1000 cubed, or 1 billion."

http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html

now scaling down would make the inverse of this true (i think) ... So Lang's mass would reduce by a factor of 150 cubed, or 3,375,000... taking him from 190lbs to 0.0000563 lbs

At this weight and his 250lbs pressing strength i believe this puts him at the top of the pound for pound strength category as he would be capable of lifting 4,440,497.336 times his own body weight

If he were capable of that feat at his 6ft stature he would be lifting 843,694,493.84 lbs, or 421,005.236 tons (taking one ton to be 2004 lbs)

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holy hemroids batman! That is alot!

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I thought Antman still keeps his weight as well, since I remember reading an issue where he was the size of an ant he jumped on a guys shoulder knocking him out.

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But he flys around on top of insects.... and even his daughter could carry him around

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Has anyone ever explained exactly what "the proportioate strength of a spider" means?

In math?

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Has anyone ever explained exactly what "the proportioate strength of a spider" means?

In math?

Hmmm..... hadn't really thought about it.... i'll do it later

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"a spider can produce a total force of about 0.025 Newtons, which means it could carry 173 times its own body weight"

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/8/4/9/1

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According to his bio, Spider-Man weighs 170lbs

170 x 173 = 29,410lbs .... roughly 15 tons

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quote: (post)
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"a spider can produce a total force of about 0.025 Newtons, which means it could carry 173 times its own body weight"

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/8/4/9/1

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According to his bio, Spider-Man weighs 170lbs

170 x 173 = 29,410lbs .... roughly 15 tons

Niiice.

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Wow!!!!!! Scoob you're pretty smart............ stick out tongue

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quote: (post)
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"a spider can produce a total force of about 0.025 Newtons, which means it could carry 173 times its own body weight"

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/8/4/9/1

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According to his bio, Spider-Man weighs 170lbs

170 x 173 = 29,410lbs .... roughly 15 tons

Hmm, what can carry more a ant or a spider?

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quote: (post)
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But he flys around on top of insects.... and even his daughter could carry him around

I was right, he did knock out a security guard by jumping on him. So he most likely can control his weight.

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If we are talking about earth heroes, not any gods comic characters bullsh*t or anything, then I'll go with the one, the only, Superman. The guy weighs 230 or there abouts, and holds f*ckin' BLACK HOLES in the palms of his hands. Happy Dance

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how old was that issue, mung?

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If we are talking about earth heroes, not any gods comic characters bullsh*t or anything, then I'll go with the one, the only, Superman. The guy weighs 230 or there abouts, and holds f*ckin' BLACK HOLES in the palms of his hands.

let me direct you to the opening statements

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So..... out of only hero's born on Marvel Earth, who is, pound for pound, the strongest... not Including Hulk (due to the whole impossible "unlimited strength" garbage)

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how old was that issue, mung?

Couple years it was with Ant Man II. When I get home from work I will try to get the issue number.

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i gotta go with majestic

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Hyperion

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Hyperion

i think majestic can outlift hyperion.....

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i think majestic can outlift hyperion.....

Majestic isn't a Marvel Earth character. Unless you're thinking of a different Majestic.

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Thanks for the Spider-man info. Its good to see a characters strength actually make sense. big grin

May 5th, 2006 03:48 PM

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