Is Speedball responsible for the deaths at Stamford?
Currently, in Civil War: Frontline, Speedball is being held responsible for the destruction and deaths at Stamford, which in turn sparked off the whole Civil War storyline.
I'm interested to hear how much responsibility you all think he should take for what's going on.
Because everyone loves numbered questions:
1. As it all resulted from his teams (the New Warriors) attempts to get better ratings for their TV show, should he be held accountable for Nitro's attack? (I'm under the impression that the rest of the Warriors did not survive to share any blame)
2. Are the people behind MGH (Mutant Growth Hormone) more, less or equally to blame for what happened?
3. Should Atlantis take part of the blame as a member of their ruling house was directly involved in the "incident"?
4. Is the TV company behind the Warriors' show at all responsible for what occurred?
5. Is Speedball just being used as a scapegoat because the US government couldn't bring in Nitro?
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These, and other questions, have been on my mind while reading recent Marvel comics so tell me your opinions..... and add more points if you like.
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Last edited by Scoobless on Nov 9th, 2006 at 03:27 AM
Whether or not he is guilty he is still being a dick about it
Seriously, imagine if you had the ability to stop 9/11 from happening and you didn't, thats basically how Speedball should feel rather than just saying, "oh its not my fault"
I agree Grimm. He may not have been the one to blow up the kids but he certainly was responsible for what happened. Like bringing him on manslaughter charges instead of murder
Nitro was wanted right or not????
Speedball didn't know that something like this could happen since nitro never had that much power.
The only thing wrong about it is that they tried to make it some kind of TV show.
I mean with super powers, you have to thing twice before you act IMO.
Holding Speedball responsible for Stamford equates to holding every super-hero responsible for the deaths caused by every super-villain that they failed to stop.
For example:
Batman should be held accountable for everyone Joker has killed since their first meeting.
DareDevil should be held responsible for everyone Bullseye & the Punisher have killed.
etc, etc ....
If Speedball is convicted for a crime that was the result of the actions of another individual, that he had no control over, then it opens a brand new set of problems for the MU super-hero community.
Well, yes and no. The fact that the sorta of extra-legal superhero thing is commonplace in the MU does somewhat absolve any responsability he may have had. Up until this point, Speedball had only been rewarded for doing what he did, so in fact, a whole society that supports the actions of superheros is just as responsable as speedball
more directly though, I say no. He didnt kill the kids. Nitro made his own personal descision to blow people up. Nitro is the evil one.
Speedball is just stupid, because he was being encouraged by a seemingly stupid culture of vigilantism.
No
they could possibly be blamed for being indescriminate in who they sold their product to, or for dealing illegal substances anyways, but they didn't kill the kids. Nitro made that choice, independent of what the MGH people said
Not unless they instructed her to do something.
If i go murder someone, is my mom responsable?
maybe, but again, I think this more shows the extension of a society that desired this form of vigilantism. The people who drove the free market and the media wanted to see what Speedball was producing.
The media is only as much to blame as the people who consume it
I like that. He probably would be guilty of SOME crime (assult, tresspassing, b&e) but to string him up for the actions of Nitro, c'est terrible
in fact, they were doing what was expected of them to STOP villians in the way people expected them to.
If Nitro hadn't blown up the school, this wouldn't have made a differance, because it would have been buisnuss as usual.
recklessly - what does this matter. Every other hero has done far more reckless things than this. Jeez, how many of them have time traveled? Or done experiments on new forms of whatever that just exploded in their face?
Their actions are only reckless by real world standards. By the standards of the MU, it was totally in line with what was expected and encouraged of the super hero community
that is a logical fallacy. We have no idea what Nitro would have done if Speedball had not attacked him. What if he was planning something 5x bigger than stanford and speedball was the one who stopped it?
we dont know the future, all we know is that, given the situation that Speedball put him in, Nitro killed hundreds of kids. HIS CHOICE.