Calling all cap fans this is a request for more scans in the Captain America respect thread. Kam has put down loads and I have put down a fair amount as well. Basically im almost out and I dont really like putting down scans because they dont look that professional but hey its better than nothing.
I also thought I might start this thread for anybody who wants to discuss the scans in the cap respect thread...issues such as Cap vs DD or Cap vs BP.
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To be honest hes a beast and i dont see why everyone "well not EVERYONE" has a problem with why he pulls his own version of Batman. Sure hes enhanced out the wahzoo,a vibrainium sheild that breaks physics laws, plus that everyone gives him mad respect thing going.
Caps the sh*t period.
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I think hes better thah Batman his feats are much greater. Apparently Ed Brubaker said that Cap is more than Batman with a shield, I am yet to find the quote.
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Regarding one of the DD/Cap encounters that King Kam posted, I don't believe DD was at peak capacity while Cap was. IIRC, in that same issue/story arc, DD had trouble with just a couple of no name thugs.
In the only other one I know of, DD wasn't right in the head. Neither of these two bouts would be a good indication as to how a fight between the two would go down IMO.
Ok but I reammy dont see how DD is gonna beat Cap. Cap is:
More experienced
Probably has more fighting knowldege, even in WW2 he knew ninjuitsu
Is stronger
More durable
Has more stamina
Has an indestructible weapon
DD is:
Slightly more agile
Has a radar sense which doesnt guarantee victory. He may know something is going to happen but that doesnt mean he will be able to stop it. If the Punisher is good enough to tag him several times what do you think Cap is gonna do.
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Cap's slightly ahead of DD physically, but it's DD's slightly superior agility combined with the fact that his radar allows him to predict his opponent's movements that clinches him the win against Cap IMO.
Cap may also be able to last longer in a fight, but he's not immune to pressure points and nerve strikes which DD excels in.
Spiderman is even more agile and see what Cap has done to him in his Iron suit.
DD's radar sense is not a silver bullet. If it was that good he would have been able to predict The Punishers move to the extent he would have avoided all his blows. The Punisher tagged him severel times, Cap is even better.
Cap does not have a radar sense but he does not have to have one, his experience can compensate him. As said to you before DD will not be able to anticipate every move.
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Experience in no way compensates for a radar sense, that's ubsurd. Daredevil is no slouch in the experience category either, and he is a far better technical fighter IMO.
The agility & radar sense combined are too much for Cap i'd reckon, he'd put up a hell of a fight but i'd see DD ocming out on top.
Yes it does. Experience enables you to anticipate you're opponents moves. DD maybe no slouch in the experience department but Cap has more. DD has a radar sense but that does not mean that Cap cant antcipate DD's moves either.
Cap has beaten a computer at H2H combat....thats how good he is. Cap stated that his experience enabled him to do that, so yes experience can compensate for a radar sens when you are as good as cap.
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Bollocks, no offence but it is, how does experience at all compare? so your saying that captain america through "experience" would be able to read a newspaper by feeling the printing? that he could recognize someone's heartbeat blocks away? No.
they have fought twice correct? I doubt he has the knowledge about how Daredevil fights to be able to anticipate Matt's moves, he could react to them surely and pretty well, but obviously not well enough.
A computer? I could beat a computer at H2H lol sorry, but how does a computer have radar sense? it may be able to use radar, but it has no such radar sense that Matt does.
I never said Captain America would take a few, but Daredevil would take a good majority (about 7/10).
I dont think you understand what im saying. Radar sense is uneccesary for Cap. The fact of the matter is you do not understand the relevance of experience. If you have knowledge and experience of all the martial arts that simply means you know how a person is likey to fight and what moves they will use. DD has a radar sense but that does not make him Quicksilver.
Cap has studied the same martial arts that DD has and more. Look at DD's bio his fighting style evolves around ninjuitsu and others Cap has studied these arts. As I said to you before his radar sense des not give him a big enough advantage to beat Cap. The Punisher is not even enhanced human and he put up a decent fight against DD. If The Punisher can do that Cap is going to win.
Ok lets forget you said that, that was just plain stupid. Are you comparing Street Fighter to a highly advanced computer? Keep arguing like this and I will just ignore you.
The other way around mate.
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Last edited by Phantom Zone on Dec 30th, 2006 at 09:32 PM
No, the computer thing I was messing about. several people have beaten computers it does not make them worthy of having better experience than a radar sense, it's really not that hard in the comic world.
So according to you Captain America's Experience>Daredevil's Radar sense? Well your definetly wrong there, its not even close to being its equal, but it does stop it from being an ownage IMO. If Daredevil had absolutely no experience and only radar sense maybe, but he has his own fair share of it and it swings the solid majority for him.
Once again Matt's agility is one of the pivotal things that take this, how would Captain America even touch him with that shield if he threw it at him? are we talking straight H2H or with the shield aswell btw?
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lol sorry, but how does a computer have radar sense? it may be able to use radar, but it has no such radar sense that Matt does.
