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Everything Is A Draw

are the comic universes so afraid to say who is better than who that someone always has to be "holding back" or "some random shite has to end the battle when everything is getting started".


i wanna see some great fights. show me who is better than who. no retreating, no holding back, no delusions of grandeur. thats not how ppl fight in real life.

marvel, dc, show some balls and show ur loyal viewers of today, what is really going on w/ ur characters.


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You know, I must agree here. I'd like to see fights that are completely genuine.

Sure, some PIS/CIS battles are cool every now and then, but I want to see some definitive battles myself. yes


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Yes but the companies would make the winners the most popular character, not the most able, plus the fan backlash for the losing character would be enormous.

Could you imagine a spider-man vs wolverine fight? It doesn't matter who wins, either way Marvel gets half it's fanbase moaning yes

I would like to see it happen but it won't sad


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Yes but the companies would make the winners the most popular character, not the most able, plus the fan backlash for the losing character would be enormous.

Could you imagine a spider-man vs wolverine fight? It doesn't matter who wins, either way Marvel gets half it's fanbase moaning yes

I would like to see it happen but it won't sad


But if they do it right at least it'll only be the Wolverine half that's left moaning.


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are the comic universes so afraid to say who is better than who that someone always has to be "holding back" or "some random shite has to end the battle when everything is getting started".


i wanna see some great fights. show me who is better than who. no retreating, no holding back, no delusions of grandeur. thats not how ppl fight in real life.

marvel, dc, show some balls and show ur loyal viewers of today, what is really going on w/ ur characters.


I don think there are 'objective truths' as to who are the most powerful characters. Like this forum, oppinions among writers vary, therefore they probably disagree with one another as to who is the best.

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Of course there are some people like Hudlin who think Storm could beat Dr. Doom, or whoever wrote that Imperiex crap. Not to mention DS losing to Supes. Subjective interpretation is one thing, but there have to be some limits. Otherwise you'd have guys like Paste-pot pete owning Galactus. laughing


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But if they do it right at least it'll only be the Wolverine half that's left moaning.


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But if they do it right at least it'll only be the Wolverine half that's left moaning.


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EXACTLY yes


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Seriously it comes down to the writters and even then do you know what kinda chaos erupts between DC/Marvel writters as to who does what and wins in stright up bloodlust fights. They would have to settle the wins already determened buy buying the wins with lawyers presnt and shyt like that. Neither company would like to just "take one on the chin" while one of their own goes down. Its like admiting you would lose and going through with the fight.


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Seriously it comes down to the writters and even then do you know what kinda chaos erupts between DC/Marvel writters as to who does what and wins in stright up bloodlust fights. They would have to settle the wins already determened buy buying the wins with lawyers presnt and shyt like that. Neither company would like to just "take one on the chin" while one of their own goes down. Its like admiting you would lose and going through with the fight.


For company crossovers they should go around various KMC style forums and gather opinions/facts (cos face it, most writers don't know their characters full history these days) and then make an informed decision.


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For company crossovers they should go around various KMC style forums and gather opinions/facts (cos face it, most writers don't know their characters full history these days) and then make an informed decision.


I think the writers and creators know better than fanboys with over inflated egos. 12 to 16 year old boys are not good judges of anything.


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For company crossovers they should go around various KMC style forums and gather opinions/facts (cos face it, most writers don't know their characters full history these days) and then make an informed decision.


I doubt that very much. I'm pretty sure most writers (especially when writing something as commercially significant as an inter company crossover) will have had to do as much research as possible before undertaking the project.

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For company crossovers they should go around various KMC style forums and gather opinions/facts (cos face it, most writers don't know their characters full history these days) and then make an informed decision.



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I think the writers and creators know better than fanboys with over inflated egos. 12 to 16 year old boys are not good judges of anything.



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I doubt that very much. I'm pretty sure most writers (especially when writing something as commercially significant as an inter company crossover) will have had to do as much research as possible before undertaking the project.


You are a very sensible person for a boy Prof S.T.D.


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You are a very sensible person for a boy Prof S.T.D.


And you seem really hot, any pics other than that frigid little Kami ?


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And you seem really hot, any pics other than that frigid little Kami ?


I have a myspace site but I'm not letting people on here have it yet.

Molly is not frigid she's cool.


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I doubt that very much. I'm pretty sure most writers (especially when writing something as commercially significant as an inter company crossover) will have had to do as much research as possible before undertaking the project.


With out a doubt the writers do character research before they start their projects but a month (if that) of research is hardly enough to cut it when you have fans who have read every single issue 'insert character name here' has ever been in. What does the writers research entail? Heading over to the comic shop picking up some back issues and then reading the wikipedia page that pertains to their writing? It isn't enough. Most of the posters on KMC are walking encyclopedias of - at the very least - one character, I'm sure browsing the froms and reading various posts would help a lot of writers get a grasp on the characters they are writing.


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I have a myspace site but I'm not letting people on here have it yet.

Molly is not frigid she's cool.


Oh shit thats molly from runaways , i though it was kami from Drax .... sorry about that, hope it hasn't compromised our relationship ?


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With out a doubt the writers do character research before they start their projects but a month (if that) of research is hardly enough to cut it when you have fans who have read every single issue 'insert character name here' has ever been in. What does the writers research entail? Heading over to the comic shop picking up some back issues and then reading the wikipedia page that pertains to their writing? It isn't enough. Most of the posters on KMC are walking encyclopedias of - at the very least - one character, I'm sure browsing the froms and reading various posts would help a lot of writers get a grasp on the characters they are writing.


I suspect the writers are the biggest fans out there and have read more comics than all the teenage forum fanboys in the world. Most of them have had many more years to read those comics.


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Oh shit thats molly from runaways , i though it was kami from Drax .... sorry about that, hope it hasn't compromised our relationship ?


Not at all Prof, sorry I thought you were STC not STI hehe.


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With out a doubt the writers do character research before they start their projects but a month (if that) of research is hardly enough to cut it when you have fans who have read every single issue 'insert character name here' has ever been in. What does the writers research entail? Heading over to the comic shop picking up some back issues and then reading the wikipedia page that pertains to their writing? It isn't enough. Most of the posters on KMC are walking encyclopedias of - at the very least - one character, I'm sure browsing the froms and reading various posts would help a lot of writers get a grasp on the characters they are writing.


All i can say is writers have greater access to past info than fans (including past writers interpretations), and one can do lot of research in a month.


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