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Who, In Marvel, Can Defeat the All-Father?

Can anyone below a well-fed Galactus or Celestial defeat Odin?

No pre. It would have to be straight up. Not in Asgard, though.


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Can anyone below a well-fed Galactus or Celestial defeat Odin?

No pre. It would have to be straight up. Not in Asgard, though.
A lower-fed Galactus.


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Can anyone below a well-fed Galactus or Celestial defeat Odin?

No pre. It would have to be straight up. Not in Asgard, though.


Surtur/Ymir/Zuras/Zeus


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Surtur/Ymir/Zuras/Zeus

Probably not. Surtur/zeus are the only people on that list that would give Odin a run for his money maybe 5/5.
Ymir can easilly be delt with by banishment.
Zuras is just a Eternal, without the other Eternals to form UniMind he is out classed.

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A lower-fed Galactus.


Most standard showings of Galactus, a lower-fed Big G, would have no chance against Odin.

And hasn't Odin beaten Surtur before? Even When Surtur had some nifty super-sword?


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Most standard showings of Galactus, a lower-fed Big G, would have no chance against Odin.

And hasn't Odin beaten Surtur before? Even When Surtur had some nifty super-sword?
Standard showing Galactus, would obliterate Odin.

Surtur lost the sword by the time Odin fought him, because when Surtur had the sword, Odin got his ass molested.


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Standard showing Galactus, would obliterate Odin.


One of Galactus' most often brought up feat is his fight with Tyrant which destroyed galaxies. This is not even close to "standard Galactus." And Odin had destroyed galaxies in multiple fights.

Standard Galactus gets his ass beat raw by Odin.


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One of Galactus' most often brought up feat is his fight with Tyrant which destroyed galaxies. This is not even close to "standard Galactus." And Odin had destroyed galaxies in multiple fights.

Standard Galactus gets his ass beat raw by Odin.
Funny how I never brought up any feats, isn't it?

Odin destroyed long burnt out galaxies in his fight with Seth, and even then, it still contridicts the rest of his history... imagine that.

You base your baseless assumptions, on?


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Yep.

Like I said.

Destroyed galaxies multiple times.

He destroys all but a well-fed Galactus.

A lower-fed Galactus gets knocked over by The Thing, beaten by Ego, fended off by regular Thor....


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Yep.

Like I said.

Destroyed galaxies multiple times.

He destroys all but a well-fed Galactus.

A lower-fed Galactus gets knocked over by The Thing, beaten by Ego, fended off by regular Thor....
Once, that I can recall... or one comic, which they were long dead galaxies...

Hold on, I'm going to look for the comic where Masterson Thor KO's Odin... wink

But I will argue on some more points until I find it...

Thing knocked him over because he was extremely weak, and really, all he did was hold his leg, and knock him over.
Galactus was never beaten by Ego, and Galactus was incredibly weak. In fact, Ego brought Thor to his planet, after Thor was about to get killed, and Ego needed his help...
Thor fired the God-blast at Galactus while he was distracted...


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Galactus was never beaten by Ego,


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Once, that I can recall... or one comic, which they were long dead galaxies...


Do inform me how that makes it any less of a feat?

Maybe it was just included to, ya know, let the reade rknow Odin had not just killed untold multitudes of living things?


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Probably not. Surtur/zeus are the only people on that list that would give Odin a run for his money maybe 5/5.
Ymir can easilly be delt with by banishment.
Zuras is just a Eternal, without the other Eternals to form UniMind he is out classed.


Zuras is immortal. Odin/Zeus aren't. Surtur/Ymir are older than Odin. They can defeat the all father who isn't ommipotent


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Also, once again, Galactus was weak when he fought Ego...



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Do inform me how that makes it any less of a feat?

Maybe it was just included to, ya know, let the reade rknow Odin had not just killed untold multitudes of living things?
The galaxies are dead... it would be something like trying to destroy a human with your hands, as apposed to destroying one that has been burnt to a crisp...
Rough comparison I know, but that's what it is.

Not to mention the fact that if it is as impressive as you let on, then it would contridict Odin's power a little...

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Well, unless you know science and can tell me why, I see no reason to think a dead galaxy is any easier to destroy than a living one. They're just as big.


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Well, unless you know science and can tell me why, I see no reason to think a dead galaxy is any easier to destroy than a living one. They're just as big.
Common sense?


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No one with th exception of a FP Tyrant. Especially not a standard Galactus.


A list of some notable feats.

# Defeating Seth in a battle that destroyed Galaxies, was waged on
every plain of exsistence, and shook the multiverse. Also had seeming consequences Dr.Strange, among others, touched upon.

# Defeating Forsung the Enchanter in a universal wide battle that created new suns in it's wake, and destroyed planets like ant hills. Odin was unhurt, Forsung was killed.

# The Infinity Arc: There are retcon aspects here,but the arc itself hasn't been straight retconned. Rather that Odin's dark aspect was tapping into the abstract Infinity. Anyway,Odin and dark Odin(tapping into Infinity)fought twice. The first battle was prolonged and very destructive as well. Galaxies fell,etc etc. The second was apparently notably shorter, with Odin overcoming. After the entire thing was concluded, Odin merely waved his sceptre and put right all the damage that the battles had caused.

# Multiple defeats of Surtur

# An easy defeat of a Mangog that was at his Silver Age levels

# Reviving Mangog's people. The same people Odin had destroyed.

# Turning Apples of Idunn into pure Gold and bestowing upon them, IIRC,at least planetary level reality altering powers

# Transporting Asgard from it's time & physical place in the universe

# Easily defeating & banishing Annihilus when weakened

# Killing Hela and then bringing her back to life

# Easily creating a Galaxy

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Zuras once sood toe-to-toe with Zeus btw...


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