Superman and the Omega Effect.....Where's the scan.
Ok a reoccurring topic in just about any Darkseid thread is that Superman was actually protected by the Source from being erased by the Omega Effect. I've been trying to track down proof of that claim for months now to no avail, so I decided to make a thread dedicated to the subject. So I gotta know, where has it actually been stated on panel that the only reason Supes survived the OE was because he was protected by the Source? I know it was established that Supes IS essential to the universe by Alexander Luthor and Mxy, but where do they(or anyone else for that matter) actually state that Supes position in the universe is what kept him from being erased?
Scans would be nice and time saving, but I'm more than willing to settle for the issue/arc where it's established.
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Last edited by darthgoober on Jun 18th, 2007 at 07:33 PM
Hey there's a LOT of stuff of DS's that I find to be BS, but I still have to hear about it in everyone of his damn threads. Now at least I(and anyone else who unfortunately believed the hype) know that it IS possible to resist the OE, whether you're "essential to the universe" or not.
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Last edited by darthgoober on Jun 18th, 2007 at 08:31 PM
Darkseid once mentioned that "the source has a plan" for Superman, but it's never been stated as to why he's able to take the omega when others of his 'calibre' cannot do the same. It's only speculated by some that this is indeed the reason.
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In all honesty, I find that to be pure forum talk. I've read a LOT of Superman and have never seen it stated that the source protects him from the OE.
My theory? I believe his relationship with Kismet is what protects him. After all, she embodies all possibilities in the uni/multiverse and ever since Superman combined with her..he's been able to resist the OE.
Kismet has stated that her and Clark have a special bond which cannot be broken.
At least I believe this makes more sense and it's closer to what is stated on panel.
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Who knows? They'd have no more or less of a shot than anyone else. Most people are defeated by them in one manner or another, whether it's turning them into a human child, wipeout beams, knockout with concussive force, some kind of other transmutation, etc, etc, etc.
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Then using your theory, it's especially possible that Surfer would be able to resist the OE as well, since it was established by LT that Surfer has a special place in the Universe as the "opposite" of Galactus, and that he is "unique" in all the universes.
I wish people would cut the bs and pleasantries. Superman survives the OE because he's more powerful than DS lately.
DS rarely goes one on one with any other hero so it remains to be seen how they'd take them. Firestorm blocked them in the Pre Crisis days and so did a GL right before he was about to take it to DS with a god damn shovel.
Maybe. Not sure about SS...but I believe it lends credence that perhaps Warlock may be able to "resist" it.
You'd rather have the standard chaotic idiocy of the vs forum?
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No, SS is from another reality. Besides, DS already used the OE on SS and melted his skin. SS maybe essential in another reality. But in a universe ruled by Magic...it won't be the same.
Superman's however, is not just hyperbole in that sense. Such as when Alexander Luthor was pulling the realities apart and looking at them and their histories, he noticed that ALL realities are directly linked to Superman. "Everything comes from Superman."
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Hell..even the relatively obscure Tangent Superman showed up for that party.
Mxy mentioned something to that effect as well.
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I didn't say that Surfer's place in the universe was the same as Supes, just that he also shared a special place in the Universe so if THAT'S what protected Supes, it's viable that Surfer could resist it also.
But truth be told, I don't think we can really take LT's stance on Surfer as hyperbole anymore than we could Spectre's.
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Darkseid's respect thread. Jimmy-chan proved that it was BS with some other scans. The damn Guardians threw that GL to the wolves because they didn't want to fight Darkseid.
Also, using Superman as a benchmark is a bad idea. DC goes to great lengths to make it obvious there's something different about him and that he is the core of their universe.
Rather, look at what's happened to everyone else who got hit by the OE. Even freaking Lobo got wasted by it.
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