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Silver Surfer = Overrated?

Compared to other characters in his tier, such as Gl's(Hal, Kyle, Alan), Thor, Superman, etc, do you find Surfer overrated? People talk a lot about Superman being overrated, but how about Surfer?

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You should request to have this moved over to the "comic books" forum.

That way it won't be closed.

And yes...Surfer is overrated.


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Hell no. You take out the PIS and Surfer's a freakin beast. But just so everyone knows, I don't consider many of the people you listed as being overrated either. Most of them have the feats to support their fans claims(though probably not the claims of the fanboys, but the same is true of Surfer).


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Originally posted by Avlon
You should request to have this moved over to the "comic books" forum.

That way it won't be closed.

And yes...Surfer is overrated.


I though about that, but their were some most overrated and underrated characters threads around the forum so I thought I'd place it here. It's kinda like a vs thread. embarrasment

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Hell no. You take out the PIS and Surfer's a freakin beast. But just so everyone knows, I don't consider many of the people you listed as being overrated either. Most of them have the feats to support their fans claims(though probably not the claims of the fanboys, but the same is true of Surfer).


I'll be E-knocking on your door then next time an Eradicator thread comes up since we're disregarding things we don't like.


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Originally posted by darthgoober
Hell no. You take out the PIS and Surfer's a freakin beast. But just so everyone knows, I don't consider many of the people you listed as being overrated either. Most of them have the feats to support their fans claims(though probably not the claims of the fanboys, but the same is true of Surfer).


I don't think the characters I mentioned above are overrated. I actually find them underrated when compared to Surfer. You place Surfer in a thread with any of the three mentioned above and you'll get posters swearing up and down he'd take 7-8 matches against them. They'll disregard all previous match ups, others feats, Surfer's personality, and how he fares against more powerful opponents, and blindly claim he wins.

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I don't think the characters I mentioned above are overrated. I actually find them underrated when compared to Surfer. You place Surfer in a thread with any of the three mentioned above and you'll get posters swearing up and down he'd take 7-8 matches against them. They'll disregard all previous match ups, others feats, Surfer's personality, and how he fares against more powerful opponents, and blindly claim he wins.


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I'll be E-knocking on your door then next time an Eradicator thread comes up since we're disregarding things we don't like.

I'm not to familiar with Erads, so I don't know what good that would do you.

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I don't think the characters I mentioned above are overrated. I actually find them underrated when compared to Surfer. You place Surfer in a thread with any of the three mentioned above and you'll get posters swearing up and down he'd take 7-8 matches against them. They'll disregard all previous match ups, others feats, Surfer's personality, and how he fares against more powerful opponents, and blindly claim he wins.

As I said the fanboys take it to far, but that can be said of ANY character.


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I'm not to familiar with Erads, so I don't know what good that would do you.


As I said the fanboys take it to far, but that can be said of ANY character.


It's not just the fanboys, I've seen some of the most respected posters on the board disregard showings of others, Surfer's showings or lack there of, and how he fares against more powerful opponents. Many sit in silence and watch, I'm kinda tired of it. It's a double standard that needs to be addressed.

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I'm not to familiar with Erads, so I don't know what good that would do you.


He's basically DC's version of Surfer.

Same powerset and abilities. Hell, he even has internal conflicts like SS.


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It's not just the fanboys, I've seen some of the most respected posters on the board disregard showings of others, Surfer's showings or lack there of, and how he fares against more powerful opponents. Many sit in silence and watch, I'm kinda tired of it. It's a double standard that needs to be addressed.

Then ignore them. There are aways guys with double standards(I'm having a debate with one right now) and you just got to brush them off. Surfer fans DO have a lot of ammo because of the variations in his showings, but overall he's no more overrated than most(and definitely not more than Supes is by HIS fans).


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Then ignore them. There are aways guys with double standards(I'm having a debate with one right now) and you just got to brush them off. Surfer fans DO have a lot of ammo because of the variations in his showings, but overall he's no more overrated than most(and definitely not more than Supes is by HIS fans).


Understandable, but when thats the way the majority of the forum thinks, it's difficult to ignore.

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Originally posted by Airwalker
Understandable, but when thats the way the majority of the forum thinks, it's difficult to ignore.

I know what you mean. Surfer's power fluctuates from writer to writer so it can be difficult to get an accurate estimate of power unless you've seen the majority of his appearances.


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Then ignore them. There are aways guys with double standards(I'm having a debate with one right now) and you just got to brush them off. Surfer fans DO have a lot of ammo because of the variations in his showings, but overall he's no more overrated than most(and definitely not more than Supes is by HIS fans).


Low blow...but anyone who reads that thread will see who is the one with double standards.

*hint* It's not me.

Hell, in another thread, I even evened them out...while you try to bring up dubious points or deflect things.


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Low blow...but anyone who reads that thread will see who is the one with double standards.

*hint* It's not me.

Hell, in another thread, I even evened them out...while you try to bring up dubious points or deflect things.


I've always acknowledged Supes being tagged by people with sublight speed as BS, so I don't see how it could be a double standard on my part. I just used it as an example of some other people's double standards in regards to Supes and Surfer wink .


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Hopefully this will get moved.

Anyway, no, he's not.

Anyone (anyone) with lots of showings will have occasional bad showings. But Surfer more than makes up for his fews low showings with a ton of high-level feats that are both versatile and pwoerful. As far as I'm concerned, he's near the top of the "high herald" tier.


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Then ignore them. There are aways guys with double standards(I'm having a debate with one right now)
Yeah, but you shouldn't complain. It's not like Airwalker's making you reply to his posts.


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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hopefully this will get moved.

Anyway, no, he's not.

Anyone (anyone) with lots of showings will have occasional bad showings. But Surfer more than makes up for his fews low showings with a ton of high-level feats that are both versatile and pwoerful. As far as I'm concerned, he's near the top of the "high herald" tier.

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Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Yeah, but you shouldn't complain. It's not like Airwalker's making you reply to his posts.



I'm not complaining. I actually like Airwalker and just considered this to be friendly banter.


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Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not complaining. I actually like Airwalker and just considered this to be friendly banter.
I was kidding... just purposely misinterpreting your "I'm having a debate with one right now" line.

Now that the joke's ruined, I'll give an opinion...

Surfer isn't overrated. As that mod guy said, everybody with a truckload of showings is going to have bad ones, but (IMO), SS's average supports the general forum consensus for his abilities. By general, I'm obviously ignoring fanboys and the like.

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