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Killing in comics

What is your stance on the heroes killing in comics?

I am VERY for it. Solves problems. Makes the villains gone for good. Prevents murder etc.

If Superman was willing to kill all his villains the world will be much safer. Same with everyone.

Killing = thumb up

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You run into slippery slope arguments there though.

I think the legal systems of such universes should be more willing to use the death penalty (though I'm usually opposed to that as well), but taking the law into your own hands sets a dangerous precedent. Fair trial, not vigilante justice, though I cautiously agree that killing isn't always a bad thing.

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also, makes for no future villans, and condones murdering with no legal system involved...

i say nay...

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
You run into slippery slope arguments there though.

I think the legal systems of such universes should be more willing to use the death penalty (though I'm usually opposed to that as well), but taking the law into your own hands sets a dangerous precedent. Fair trial, not vigilante justice, though I cautiously agree that killing isn't always a bad thing.

Joker has had a fair trial and still kills. If the same happened to him hundreds would be saved.

Theres a difference between our world and theirs. We don't have to deal with people who regally try to poison millions of people or kill people like that.

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Joker has had a fair trial and still kills. If the same happened to him hundreds would be saved.

Theres a difference between our world and theirs. We don't have to deal with people who regally try to poison millions of people or kill people like that.

well there are some exceptions, but usuallly no.

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well there are some exceptions, but usuallly no.

Authority kill and the world is safer. They did lose it for a while but they know when to stop.

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I'm pretty sure this thread has been done before, anyway....

Totally against it, pretty much for the reasons Digi said and the influence of my own Christian Morality yes

As Christian Bale said in Batman begins, when asked why he didn't kill;

"That's what separates us from them."

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Authority kill and the world is safer. They did lose it for a while but they know when to stop.

If you call a world full of murderers safer, then you have a very shrewed sense of morality yes

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I'm pretty sure this thread has been done before, anyway....

Totally against it, pretty much for the reasons Digi said and the influence of my own Christian Morality As Christian Bale said in Batman begins, when asked why he didn't kill;

"That's what separates us from them."

What separates them is they kill for wrong reasons. Heroes don't.

If theres a thread find it. wink

My search must be broke. sad

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What separates them is they kill for wrong reasons. Heroes don't.

If theres a thread find it.

My search must be broke.

Oh and what's a justifiable reason for murder? roll eyes (sarcastic)

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I vote yes, because we can't really expect a world with multiple mass (MASS) murderers to apply the same rules that we, relatively sheltered in comparison, do.

On the other hand, I vote no, because a comic where they have to make up a new villain or bring another back from the dead every couple issues would be teh suxzorz.

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If you call a world full of murderers safer, then you have a very shrewed sense of morality

If they are killing for the right reasons.

TBH I have hardly any sense of morality. yes

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I vote yes, because we can't really expect a world with multiple mass (MASS) murderers to apply the same rules that we, relatively sheltered in comparison, do.

On the other hand, I vote no, because a comic where they have to make up a new villain or bring another back from the dead every couple issues would be teh suxzorz.

Ignore the comic aspect think of their worlds etc.

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Ignore the comic aspect think of their wolds etc.

Which I answered in the first bit. smile

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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
Which I answered in the first bit.

I know that it was to everyone but using your comment as an example. smile

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Originally posted by Switch 07
If they are killing for the right reasons.

Well, personally I can't see a justifiable reason for murder, Call me naive if you want but I'd rather you call me Will big grin

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TBH I have hardly any sense of morality.

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So if Joke killed the entire city of Goth would you want him in jail or in a grave not doing the same?

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Absolutely for killing.

If there is one things years of comics have shown us, not killing the bad guys solve nothing.

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Absolutely for killing.

If there is one things years of comics have shown us, not killing the bad guys solve nothing.

No, that just shows us that the writers can't kill them or they'd run out of good villians and material. In a more controlled setting, you wouldn't have villians escaping every time the writer needs them for a good plot device. Comics doesn't = reality.

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You run into slippery slope arguments there though.

I think the legal systems of such universes should be more willing to use the death penalty (though I'm usually opposed to that as well), but taking the law into your own hands sets a dangerous precedent. Fair trial, not vigilante justice, though I cautiously agree that killing isn't always a bad thing.

Agreed although if I were a comic book character and had telepathic powers I'd be on the fence with "forced mental rehabilitation." shifty

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