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Serious characters who later became jokes/losers

Recently I was looking at the original Champion (Elder of the Universe) appearance and how different he was to what he became later on. He started out as a deadly, unbeatable and honorable fighter and seemed reasonably intelligent as well.

Later (perhaps around the time of Thanos Quest) he became a brutish idiot, and later still he just seemed to be a bit of a joke, with characters like She-Hulk beating him.

It's kind of hard for characters to recover from such treatment.

It made me wonder - what other characters out there were introduced as serious characters, but had later writers turn them into jokes or complete idiots despite contradicting the earlier appearance(s)?

I know there are more (especially among the villains) but I can't think of any offhand...

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Apoc

he could be such a threat (see ult xmen), yet he's barely a nuisance nowadays


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Apoc

he could be such a threat (see ult xmen), yet he's barely a nuisance nowadays


By "nowadays" you mean that one bad BoA arc back in 2006.


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Not under his own power unfortunately...


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Hank Pym.
Even Stan Lee wonders why his character didn't take off.

cuz he sucks and always has


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