There was some indie comics guy, he was a gruff, middle-aged Irish dude (or something similar). Scoob introduced me to him. Anyway, he was basically a walking piece of durability PIS. Nothing ever scratched him, and they ramped it up to things that would phase heralds. Like, skydiving without a parachute with nukes strapped to him.
Anyway, no strength to speak of whatsoever. So he gets my vote for "durable, not strong."
Strength without durability? Dunno. Realistically, it's harder to have that and seem believable. A class 10 punch with human durability would liquify your arm.
Honestly, He-man maybe for the opposite one. His durability's fine, but it's the clear weak link when compared with his strength.
Disagree. His durability is roughly equal to his strength. He's taken hits from an angry Hulk and Morlun and been ok. His durability isn't anything special, mind you, but it's also not comparatively low compared to his strength.
PM Scoobless. I don't, and couldn't find him in a search.
normally implied that there glancing blows. Also for every high showing he has like the Hulk one (which is not that many especially direct hits) there are low showings. I think it is comparatively low compared to his strength. The lowest? No. he still pretty dam durable. However his strength is not relative to his durability when you compare him to characters like Captain America for instance. Spiderman is with out a doubt stronger then capt it not even debatable. However one could argue Capt being just as durable as Spiderman or at least within the same ball park. That in it self shows that his strength is not proportionatly to his durability.
At the time this was written Morlun was a 25 tonner who absorbed life force. This was later changed to him being legitment class 100. But context of when the fight took place is important.
what? Not sure what your referring to at all.
yes and you seem to focus on his highest showings. His normal durability levels are not tanking 100 class punches.
I never said peter was not fine in durability. I said compared to his strength his durability is not as high.
it very easy arguement to make. Spiderman is clearly>>>>capt in strength
However the same case is not nearly as easy to make for Spiderman being more durable. This is because his strength is beyond his durability. If Spiderman lacked in any area is be his durability when compared to his other stats.
Seems like the best example of high durability & low strength would be Wolverine. His strength is just enhanced, on a par with Captain America, and now his durability has gotten him surviving atomic level explosions (see during Civil War) with enough time to heal.
Superhuman strength with low durability, first one that come to mind is Wonder Woman. Just because they still let sharp, pointed objects pierce her skin, even if she can shrug off a blow from Superman. It's because of the bracelets thing she does, that they still want her to be in jeopardy that way.
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ASM #500. One of the overlooked aspects of that issue is that he had to fight his way through his own history to get back to the present. I re-read the fight, and it's unclear if it's his entire history, or just scattered battles as he jumps from time to time. But, based on what was shown on-panel, he had to fight at least 30 or so battles back-to-back against all of his classic villains. An insane stamina/durability/will feat.
Not so. My point is that his durability roughly matches his strength. Tanking Class 100 punches consistently would put his durability higher than his strength, which it is not.
And I disagreed. Both are roughly equal imo, and nothing to write home about unless he's angry. It's his speed and agility that separate him.
Pete's top durability fats do top Cap's. But I think I see the problem. Cap is very durable for a high street. So you're comparing Pete to someone whose durability is easily arguable as >>>> his strength, comparatively speaking. Cap makes a lot of low metas seem less durable...doesn't mean they have low durability though, just that Cap has great durability for his level.
Spider-man has a lot of good durability feats. The number of times he's taken direct class 100 atacks is pretty high as well. I was always under the impression Cap can take so much damage mostly because of his will power, but his durability is not on Spider-man's level. Even going by basic things like lifting things. Spider-man wouldnt be able to lift a train or a tank unless he had durability to go with it, Cap's bones would just snap in that situation and not only because he lacks the strength. But overall I agree Pete's durability doesnt measure to his strength. Or more like, with him it depends on his state of mind. When needed he was shown taking crazy amount of damage.
I remember that issue. Yeah, that was an insane feat. Dont think he went though EVERY battle, that'd be insane. But it was clearly implied he went through dozens.
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